Backarcher was talking about being mentally strong in the "Cool Sparring" thread.

Chris Weidman mentally broke Anderson Silva. It happened when he took him down and did some good ground and pound. Then he transitioned so quickly into two submission attempts that it did something to Anderson. Anderson must have been shocked at how fast and how well this youngster was beating him. Weidman landed solid shots on the ground and I think what really pissed Silva off was the fast transition into submission attempts. Right after he was finally able to get up that's when the showboating started. Silva's corner can be seen telling him to calm down.

He was showboating because he was so upset but how Weidman was beating him.

He was showboating (in my opinion and his own words)to convince Chris to strike instead of look for the takedown. (Just like he did with Forrest, Maia, Cote, Bonnar...)

If he'd won, like he's done before, people would of praised him, like they'd done before and called him the greatest. but he didn't. He got caught. It's what happens sometimes when you compete.
Anderson was taken down beat and controlled by Henderson, Lutter and chael...twice. I don't think he broke mentally. It just gave him more of a reason to try to convince Chris to partake in a striking game. Good strategy by a vet. He's 38. Older and slower.
It happens to the best. Ali and Roy Jones Jr...Mayweather soon. No big deal.

"sometimes you get the bull and sometimes the bull gets you"

No more or less.

Or, Silva was actually looking to lose the fight so he can fulfill his dream of fighting Roy Jones Jr.

As long as he was the UFC champ, he wasn't allowed to fight outside the UFC.

SIlva will most likely make more money on one boxing match with Jones (even if he loses) than his total combined earnings over his entire MMA career.

Could also explain why Silva had his defeat speech rehearsed and ready to go.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1694243-is-there-a-chance-anderson-silva-vs-r oy-jones-jr-could-actually-happen

That's one of the conspiracy theories that's floating around the web. Both discount Weidman's skill and knockout of Silva. You guys are making it should like he was invincible.

Backarcher,
His "showboating" was a tactic which he used successfully to knockout many other opponents. The reason it worked was because they were so much worse than Silva abd afraid of his mystique. Weidman was as good or better and not afraid of his mystique which is why it didnt work. Back then it wasn't called showboating because he was winning and looking like a wizard. He gets knocked out and people are saying he was showboating. BS. It was his main tactic to keep his matches standing. Roy Jones did this to people for ears until he got too old and also faced an opponent of equal skill in Tarver.

If Silva retired and didn't sign a new 10 fight contract he could have fought Roy. What was the point of him signing a new 10 fight contract with the UFC if he just wanted to fight Roy Jones and cash out???

OH, S N A P!

Silva knew deep down he couldn't beat someone as young, talented, and hungry as Weidman which is why he had all these speeches "rehearsed". Silva is also known for giving terrible interviews.

Reporter:Why did you do what you did in the fight?
Silva: I respect all marito arts and fighters. I have been doing marito arts since I was 9. I am a warrior.

His answers were never direct and always filled with such nonesense except in his recent interviews.

Reporter: does chael deserve a rematch?
Silva: there are many fighters that deserve a match. Chael is just one of them. We all train so hard for the goal of being he best. That's it, man.



Silva probably doesn't feel he has it in him to take back the belt like GSP did which is why he said he won't fight for it.

http://insidefights.com/2013/07/09/perception-reality-there-was-no-fix-at-ufc-16 2-and-anyone-who-believes-it-is-a-moron/

No fix.

You are right, Timber.

Pot fight, Dana said the Roy Jones fight might be a go regardless. It depends on how much R. Jones wants.$$$

From Renzo Gracie:

http://sportv.globo.com/site/combate/noticia/2013/07/renzo-critica-provocacoes-d e-spider-nao-pode-diminuir-o-seu-oponente.html

"This kid [Weidman] is very dangerous, he was always very dangerous. Every time he fights, he wins. Early in the bout, when Chris was in control, he did everything he wanted, but couldn't win, so Anderson gained great confidence. He thought it would be a walk in the park and then he began to play. And the boy [Weidman] really was fading, he was tired because he did everything (pushing the pace) during the first round. He had side control, he was attacking... and when Anderson saw him fading, he thought: "Now I'm gonna give a show". The problem is that this sport is not the place for that. In this sport you have to win.
I'm sure the people who were in his corner said: "Go out there and win", but he decided to do what was on his mind, he was joking, shaking ... And if you notice, this kid has a very big star (luck). Whenever he is in trouble, he manages to win. When he attacked, Anderson lost his balance when he was mocking him, and had no way to defend himself. And then he got caught with a punch to the chin. And when that happens there's no way out, you go to sleep, your brain turns off.

"The longer the fight, the worst it would be to Chris, I was seeing it. He began to fade, but Anderson didn't manage to take [the fight] seriously. He began to mock Chris. It was over the top (exaggerated), because you can't belittle your opponent. If you're confident enough to do this kind of thing, go and finish the fight. Go for the KO or for the submission. You just can't stand there dancing and not go for the win. Are you gonna stay there to give a show to others?"


"I was [there] in the fight against Demian. Anderson's behavior in this fight (against Weidman) was worse. It was more aggressive and more insulting than on that occasion. The words he was using ... It was insulting ... And this is something he shouldn't do.
He is the champion, he is an example in the sport. He has a fantastic history as UFC fighter and should be respectful and act in a proper manner.
I gave an interview before the fight telling him to change his ways, but it didn't happen. Unfortunately, it's stuck in his soul and it comes out from there, right? And that's what caused his defeat today (it costed his victory).

"No doubt it affects you mentally. You're trying to fight, to attack the guy and he is dancing, he isn’t keeping his hands high, he lets you hit his face... that's a thing that really breaks you mentally. Chris had a break of pace, but not because of the way Anderson was fighting, but because he got tired, he was pushing the pace during the entire first round. And when you start like that, you need to slow down or the train derails".

"Anderson is a great champion, all he has to do is put his head in the right place and remember when he was a kid who was working hard in order to get where he is now, and be that boy again. When you begin to lose sight of who you are, you start to fall into traps like this. Life comes to collect”.

Anderson defended the title for 10 years, that is a long time. Does it get boring?

If it's his dream to fight other great fighters, I dont see why he wouldn't just give up the ufc title and pursue other interests while he still can..

Fighters have a somewhat limited career time..

Of course Silva can beat someone as talented as Weidman, he's done it a dozen times.

Champions don't prepare defeat speeches.

It will be interesting to see what happens next.

For years now, people have declared me crazy for refusing to admit Anderson's greatness. I always said I have to see him beat a "young" semi-well rounded college wrestler.
Anderson's UFC victims have mostly been questionable to me, except for Vitor and Franklin. He beat mostly beat lesser skilled strikers and BJJ guys with limited takedowns.
He's been a big ole fish in a little pond (185 div).
The division is changing, getting better and he's getting older.

He is still one of the most skilled fighters ever!

He did have a prepared speech but not because he threw the fight. Silva had a prepared speech because he knew he could not beat someone as confident as Weidman. He had probably been thinking about that speech for months as he trained with fear and anxiety.

...and I forgot, his victory over Henderson was one of his best also.

No one at that level trains with fear and anxiety.

If you had to defend your belt against a young well rounded wrestler from mother-effin ny you might train with some fear and anxiety. And I don't mean during the actual training. I meant maybe his overall presence in life during training camp.

Hey, if thousands of people can speculate on him throwing the fight, as opposed to actually losing it, then it's ok to speculate on his psyche before the fight. I'm as psychic as all the other Internet debaters.

I agree with your assessment of the 185 pound weight class at the time of Silva's rise. Jon Jones destroyed former champions in his class: Machida, Rampage, Shogun. Anderson's belt defenses weren't nearly as tough except for Chael Sonnen. ;)

Dana White seems like a d!ck but he talks straight.

http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/the_main_event/ufc_already_planning_rematch_between_ QRcuJaLQGsdRr6k7MQt4cM

Here is the full fight with constant instant replays of the knockout. Weidman lands nearly 6 clean blows to Silva after he is knocked out and all Solva could do was raise his arm. He had no head movement on the ground.

http://www.break.com/video/ugc/ufc-162-anderson-silva-vs-chris-weidman-full-figh t-videoflv-2485731

I realize I am beating a dead horse but...oh well. Enjoy the knockout again and again!

Let it die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about wing chun

demak

crane style

Chi

I can't let it die! As long as this stupid conspiracy theory exists I shall face or head on like I did with Dracula in that movie.


Dim mak? Wing chun? Sounds like what I had for dinner.

I'm asian and I just went there.