With out Tai chi, Ba gua wouldnot exist. Tai chi is the one chi,and Ba gua is the root of change. There can be no real school of this because it must be expressed and experienced, only the know how of this can be taught or transmitted. {difference in methods or so called schools which is a change from ancient taoist traditions in its self!} Change is the only constant in the universe, so there are no limits to what can change.Anything Everything

Fighting ,spiritual cultivation, centering ,rooting ,ext., are all expressions that come from wuji manifested into yin or yang and subject to change {Ba gua}. It is not the fist or body that wins a fight, it is the mind where all these things originate. The body is only a vessel.




No secrets No money just the truth. Bring on the the trash talkers!

This is a very nice fantasy. You should keep it up.

With out people like you the Dao would not be what it is. Study the nature of the I Ching more closely, only then will you understand what BaGua really is.



Or not

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man who scratch ass should not bite nails.

"The Dao is a dried up dunstisck"

This Zen-passage is a actually softer version of Zhuang Zi´s "The Dao is found in excrement too."

So I would say: scratch ass, bite nail, and have a taste of the Dao. . .

. . . So does the circle close at last! Dao-talk IS ••••!

Didnt Dong Hai Chuan Have lightness skill? Doesnt the legend go that he taught a man and that man later betrayed his teachings by becoming a cat burgler so Dong refused to teach any one else? So who taught Dong Qing Gung? And did he ever teach any one else ?

"Didnt Dong Hai Chuan Have lightness skill"

No. And neither does anyone else.

My friends Will Ho, and Ma Chuan Xu,not to mention countless others, all have tales of Masters Yang Lu Chan, and Dong Hai Chuan, containing these skills, and others even more grand sounding.

As for me I belive anything is possible, however unlikly it may sound.

One thing I have learned over the years is to never underestimate the power of the human spirit.

BaGuaZhang is not what it was sixty years ago, there are very few men left that truly understand Gung fu. People today are to ridged and critical in there ways, and it is hard to trust and allow oneself to be open to new ideas for fear they will get let down, But hard is it may be try not to judge to harshly, after all we are all brothers. Long lifes to all.

Thats untrue Tim, I just finished leaping from one tree to the other a few days ago.

I thought I saw a monkey jumping through my trees.

I saw a modern application of lightness skill on tv several times recently. A team of young Paris extreme athletes have invented a sport in which they run up walls and tumble along the tops of buildings and fences.

In one scene that is supposedly undoctored, you see one young fellow run up the wall of an alleyway, and down the wall on the outherside after having leaped the short gap at the top of the alleyway while upside down.

I'm sure that the occassional old-style Chinese acrobat-trained martial artist or martial obsessive may have demonstrated similar skills that started the stories and the ridiculous exaggerations of the modern kung fu movies ... and the Matrix.

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"As for me I belive anything is possible, however unlikly it may sound."

Do you believe that you can train how to fly through martial arts practice?

"One thing I have learned over the years is to never underestimate the power of the human spirit."

Do you think "the human spirt" will help you achieve such a goal.

Imagine that - you wouldn't even have to even practice sparring, you could just fly away from the fight.

"I saw a modern application of lightness skill on tv several times recently. A team of young Paris extreme athletes have invented a sport in which they run up walls and tumble along the tops of buildings and fences"

It's called Parkour:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/le.parkour/movie/page2.html

Thank you thank you for that link! I've been trying to figure out who those dudes were forever! We should all be able to do that stuff. And if we'd spend more time training, instead of hopeing for magic powers we probably could!

ChicagoCraig, I think mabey we have a bit more evolving to do before we can reach that level of talent, but it is true that we only use twelve% of are mind capacities, who knows what the future can hold.

...Cultivating Chi is more important is then flying at this point...But if you like, try jumping out of a window and see if it works for you

"..Cultivating Chi is more important is then flying at this point...But if you like, try jumping out of a window and see if it works for you"

Is lightness skill more important the flying skill at this point too? I'll leave the jumping out of windows trainning to you. I'm not into lightness/flying skills (unless of course i'm watching animals with wings).

Just a quick question: When your trainning lightness skills(if you do at all), do you have wings or do you just rely on your chi, like hot air balloon style?

"I think mabey we have a bit more evolving to do before we can reach that level of talent, but it is true that we only use twelve% of are mind capacities, who knows what the future can hold."

Maybe if we learn't how to use 25% of our mind capacity, we could evolve into Batman - Who knows, you may be onto something - Bat style flying chi fist?

The idea that we only use 12% of our brains is outdated. Neurologists are only now beginning to uderstand what is going on in much of the brain. The 88% is just doing stuff they don't fully understand.

I think training will "evolve" you quicker then chatting on the net. But I did hear that if you sit in a bath tub full of hot water, and place a red brick in the bottom of the tub, and slap your sac against said brick...magic powers soon will be yours!

-Chris