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   By garrett stack on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 05:16 am: Edit Post

So why arent team Psycho winning all around them ???


   By Tim on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 01:50 pm: Edit Post

Alienpig,

You mean "winning or losing."

When properly trained, fear and compassion make you a superior fighter, not an inferior one.

Having said that:

Charles Manson by armbar


   By Bob #2 on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 05:15 pm: Edit Post

Alienpig, you should consider righting a book of odd thought couplings. I plan on adding that phrase "unfettered by fear or compassion" to the opening lecture at my upcoming 'Introductory to Tai Chi Pain' seminar.

Tim,
Manson could ONLY pull off the armbar if Squeaky Fraum distracted Tito with her interpretive dance routine. [according to the letters I've gotten from Manson he can only do 2 push-ups and 1 pullup (girly style). Physcho or not- I just don't think he has the juice.]


   By alienpig on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 07:57 pm: Edit Post

Garrett,

psycopaths don't work well in teams and are known to be notoriously tardy when it comes to competition matches. (I suppose its on account of all the mischeaf their planning)


   By Jamie on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 11:51 pm: Edit Post

It is a sociopath that does not have compassion.
Having only primal function yields a thoughtless fear ridden brain.

Developmentally Disabled (Mentally Retarded) wards of the state are perfect examples of primal functioning.


Manson does have plenty of experience getting goods in a "FREE FOR ALL" spending his days fighting Bubba-fungus on his low bunk low tier in the sensitive needs unit at Chino.
I choose Bad Boy Tito by a shank in yard one.

PS is the clock on this post 3 hours off-
Or is time just relative to perspective?


   By garrett stack on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 05:28 am: Edit Post

Garrett,

psycopaths don't work well in teams and are known to be notoriously tardy when it comes to competition matches. (I suppose its on account of all the mischeaf their planning)


I suppose bedwetting, pet torture and firestarting are individual sports but I dont really see how they might prepare one for the UFC.


   By King Mint on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 08:10 am: Edit Post

Tim,

"When properly trained, fear and compassion make you a superior fighter, not an inferior one."

I'm curious as to why? (not that I disagree).

By the way, my credit card is ready and waiting for your Standing Grappling DVD.


   By Tim on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 01:11 pm: Edit Post

King Mint,

Because people without fear are rash, and people without compassion have nothing to fight for.

The discs are in duplication, I'll announce shortly the release date.


   By Jason M. Struck on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:25 am: Edit Post

back to the original post:

it's somewhat of a flawed logic to think that holding things or weighting yourself down will be the most effective way of strengthening the movements you hope to perform better.

I have no argument that the weight vest is great for endurance of the legs, and posture... but holding medicine balls aloft will not make horizontal strikes any stronger or more powerful. If you consider the angles of resistance for a moment, you realise that what you are really training is the ability to keep your hands up (shoulder endurance). Terribly important, but not kinestheticly related to pushing or pulling.

Frankly I did not learn how to keep my hands up until sparring (even the reinforcements of my San Da teacher were not as compelling as the repeated jabs to the nose).

So in summation: Tim is right. Sparring is not something to overlook. Additionally, any improvement in physical qualities is a good thing, but your methods right now are not the best.


   By Jason M. Struck on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

back to the original post:

it's somewhat of a flawed logic to think that holding things or weighting yourself down will be the most effective way of strengthening the movements you hope to perform better.

I have no argument that the weight vest is great for endurance of the legs, and posture... but holding medicine balls aloft will not make horizontal strikes any stronger or more powerful. If you consider the angles of resistance for a moment, you realise that what you are really training is the ability to keep your hands up (shoulder endurance). Terribly important, but not kinestheticly related to pushing or pulling.

Frankly I did not learn how to keep my hands up until sparring (even the reinforcements of my San Da teacher were not as compelling as the repeated jabs to the nose).

So in summation: Tim is right. Sparring is not something to overlook. Additionally, any improvement in physical qualities is a good thing, but your methods right now are not the best.


   By Paul Tarter on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 01:45 am: Edit Post

Jason,
I agree that the medicine ball training will probably not do much for horizontal striking. I thought it would be a good idea because Jiangrong Qioa's form has alot of circular movements that resemble chinese wrestling moves very closely, and that shoulder strength would be an advantage with this type of form. They also develope grip strength since the 5lb. balls can be palmed. I was pretty slim when I started and this type of training has helped me and I can do while I practice my form.


   By Jason M. Struck on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 02:42 pm: Edit Post

it's all about goals and tools

know what you want to make, and use the right tools to make it and your set.


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