Sun Bagua and Luo Dexiu

Tim's Discussion Board: Ba Gua Zhang : Sun Bagua and Luo Dexiu
   By Troy on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 01:01 am: Edit Post

Erm...I thought they didn't have exact applications, but what do i know?

Cool! =)

   By Michael Taylor on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 04:16 pm: Edit Post

Those applications weren't exact in form, but rather they were approximate: using the same directional-energies as found in the various forms.

Thanks... I enjoyed watching the clip... (c:}

   By Michael Taylor on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 04:59 pm: Edit Post

Note: The 2nd clip isn't Sun-style

   By Troy on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 01:02 am: Edit Post

Yes I knew that from the beginning. Hence the title of the topic. =)

   By Bob #2 on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:00 am: Edit Post


   By Michael Taylor on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 02:30 am: Edit Post

Troy, I figured that out after posting, but then had trouble editing... sorry (I'm brain-dead).

   By Bob #2 on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 03:09 pm: Edit Post

astutely astute.

   By Stephen Ott on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 03:49 pm: Edit Post

I saw Earle's Ba Gua book. Couldn't get past the photos, which lacked contrast and looked kinda grey. But he seems to know what's up in this video.

Am I the only person who thinks making a decent Ba Gua book is really hard? I think it's a style that's more difficult than most to teach in a book.

   By Tim on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 08:59 pm: Edit Post

The dynamic and complicated nature of the forms and techniques I think make Baguazhang especially difficult to put into book form.

   By Bob #2 on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:42 am: Edit Post

in which video does Earle seem to know what's up?

   By Bob #2 on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:11 am: Edit Post


   By Stephen Ott on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 04:05 pm: Edit Post

Uh...sorry, Bob. Not a daily visitor to the site.

Earle's doing stuff that looks like Ba Gua apps I've seen before.

   By Bob #2 on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 08:53 pm: Edit Post

sigh.... you said "..he seems to know what's up in this video"

Which video is 'this' video?

The only video links in this thread are of:
Sifu Hal Mosher (who, judging solely by the video clip, couldn't manage to even do an application for a job at Mcdonalds correctly)- much less BaGua

and Luo Dexiu (who, could crush Earle with his pinkies).

so.... I'd like to know which video you say Earle appears to know his stuff on so that I can watch it and see if it surpasses all the other videos I've seen of Earle (all of which make me wonder if/how and why a student would ever return for a second dose.

Roberto Numero Dos

   By Stephen Ott on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:11 am: Edit Post

You're right! I mixed up Earle( I think a Ba Gua guy, right? He did the book) and this guy, Hal.

The movements in the video are consistent with what I've seen of Ba Gua, which is all I was saying. It was filmed on that slo-mo planet where opponents throw an attack and seem to wait for you to kill them, but perhaps that's just a tool for demonstration?

Luo is a whole different class over these guys, obviously.

   By Elliot on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 01:34 pm: Edit Post

Alot of people fight on that slo-mo planet, like the Systema guys and the Kenpo guys.

   By Elliot on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 05:20 pm: Edit Post

Hey, I also found this example of pakua

   By Shane on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 05:56 pm: Edit Post

I'd like to see Dr John Captn Biff Painter and Earle Montigue band together to fight 1 real martial artist.

   By Mike Rotch on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 03:26 am: Edit Post

Could someone tell the waiter in the Chinese monkey suit to turn off the Kenny G and bring our check please.

   By The Iron Bastard on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 01:29 pm: Edit Post

What these instructors can or cannot do is irrelevant. It is what you can or can't do that is relevant.

   By Stephen Ott on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 08:42 pm: Edit Post

I'm the last guy to encourage criticizing other martial artists, but I think it's perfectly normal, and even prudent, to observe a teacher and wonder if this teacher is accomplished enough to instruct you.
Even if they're a great practitioner, if they are bad teachers, then I won't learn nearly as much as I could with a quality instructor. A lesson I've learned the hard way.

   By Enforcer on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 06:28 am: Edit Post

it seems very ineffective to me, why put so much effort to move around so much after just blocking one punch and wait for them to hit you again so you can wrap both their arms together? a guy isnt just gonna hold his arm out there for oyu like that and its gonna be too quick to really anticipate msot the time, and alot easier to just strike them back or tie them up.

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