Ba Gua Entering Methods

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   By Sugarshrimp on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 01:57 pm: Edit Post


I trained bagua for around 8 years and learned next to nothing but forms, as is all too common in IMA schools. However I am still very interested in real bagua.

Now I read somewhere a while back that bagua has a number of a number of entering methods. Can someone please detail a few of these for me.


   By Frank O on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:52 pm: Edit Post

Yin Style bagua of the Yin Fu/Men Baozen/Xie Pei Chi/He Jinbao lineage has inumerable entering and striking and jointlocking and throwing methods for each of the eight animals . It would be great if you can see some of them from a trained practioner of the system. You can google Yin style bagua for the web site and closest school and workshop. The CDs and tapes have recently become available on ebay with some regularity. For applications Check out any CD beyond the first two of any animal as the the first two specifically train foundation exercises and see the martial stuff for yourself. The lineage holder is He Jinbao and he's coming to the US from Sept- Nov. 07. Similar to your experience, I trained in bagua for 4 years in the early nineties and only learned forms from The Wandering Daoist. In 1999 When I finally heard about Dr. Xie and He Jinbao's martial approach and got to see and work it I knew that my prior experience was but an unsatisfying introduction. The proof is in the pudding and this style has the goods.

   By Jake Burroughs on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:54 pm: Edit Post

Is He Jin Bao really that good apps wise? His book was one of the worst things I have ever seen.

   By garrett stack on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 04:54 pm: Edit Post

Jake he is pretty good and willing to demonstrate really likes to wrestle SC as well.

AFAIK he does not have any books out.

   By Jake Burroughs on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 11:35 am: Edit Post

He was in one that Alex Kozma did. did some apps and some solo stuff.

   By garrett stack on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 02:25 pm: Edit Post

He jing han from Taiwan is who you are thinking of Jake.

He Jinbao is from Beijing.


   By Jake Burroughs on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 11:38 pm: Edit Post

Whoops. My bad.
Thanks Garrett.

   By garrett stack on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 06:38 am: Edit Post

No worries

   By Richard S. on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 04:48 pm: Edit Post

If you are interested in entering as it applies to throwing techniques in Bagua you should check out Tim's book "Effortless Combat Throws".

   By Tim on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 07:53 pm: Edit Post

Good call Richard.

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