Question for Tim about "stretch rebound and momentum"

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   By Craig on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:59 pm: Edit Post

I was reading the sections on the stretch rebound and momentum in Effortless Combat Throws... both concepts are all over the Fu style bagua form. There is a lot of twisting of the body and torso to generate the stretch rebound (compressing of the body in different ways), and sometime the effect of that builds the momentum for the spinning motions. People have commented before on how the spinning is about building balance, or combative strategy etc... And I think it also has to do with letting the momentum follow through the motion to build a stronger sense of momentum in the mind/body throughout specific movements.

I was wondering if this idea about the spinning movements make sense to you in relation to how bagua forms are generally practiced?

Also, the twisting of the lower body, hips and torso sometimes means that the shoulders turn further than the hips (for a very brief moment) in order to create the stretch rebound - would you consider this too extreme of a twist, and compromising to one's own body structure?

Hope I'm being clear!

Thanks,
Craig


   By Tim on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 05:52 pm: Edit Post

Hi Craig,

As far as spinning "letting the momentum follow through the motion to build a stronger sense of momentum in the mind/body throughout specific movements" I agree. Some of the spinning movements in forms and drills will not necessarily be used in the same way in actual application, but they have a definite purpose in training.

In Baguazhang especially, the shoulders will often twist further than the hips to a certain extent to increase central stability and store rotational energy in the spine and torso.


   By Craig on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 10:05 pm: Edit Post

Thanks, Tim.

I must say that Effortless Combat Throws is not only a jem for practical IMA/throwing, but many of the principles and non esoteric explanations in it have helped and deepened my over all understanding of form practice. Thanks for taking the time to produce THE GOODS!


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