Sun style sucessor

Tim's Discussion Board: Tai Ji Quan : Sun style sucessor
   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:42 am: Edit Post

Sun Jian named a sucessor of the Sun style before her death..does anyone know who this person is and what connection to the Sun Family Lineage they have. Thank You

   By Tomo (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 03:16 am: Edit Post

Is Sun Peng the successor of Sun Jian Yun? And how much does Sun Shu Rong's school differ?

   By Bob Melia (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 03:03 am: Edit Post

My Understanding is that Sun Yong Tien is the sucessor for Sun style in Beijing, and that there are a few others based in Bao Ding.
This information is from my Teacher Mr David Martin who was a second generation disciple of Sun Jian Yun and studied with her in Beijing over a period of 12 years travelling each year from England.

   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 08:56 am: Edit Post

Thank you Bob...would your teacher happen to know how Sun Yong Tien is related to the Sun Family Bloodline? Much appreciated.

   By Brian Kennedy on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 05:34 pm: Edit Post

This comment is not directed specifically at Sun Lu Tang's taiji lineage but is a general comment.

I presume that people realize when Chinese Master "X" names a successor that that has little to do with that person's technical skill but rather has to do with a number of other factors. For example many "successors" are named based on the simple fact that they are the person who was willing to take care of Master "X" in Master "X's" old age. "Take care of" being defined as do Master X's laundry and run errands for him.

Just something to keep in mind.
take care,

   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 05:53 pm: Edit Post

Well if what Brain says is true.....Is Sun Yong Tien someone who learned Sun Style Tai Chi Chuan or someone who just took care of Sun Jian Yun in her later years. Does anyone know?

   By staford (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:40 am: Edit Post

The system has never been 'fair' but that is the way it is. It really does not make a difference because skill is the main thing. Now with Western modes of technological transfer and cultural immitation, the best is isually the one who can market the style and give people, not what they want, but gratify their ego into thinking such.

Know the game and prosper!
semper fi

   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 10:53 pm: Edit Post

Well put staford, but it doesn't speak to the questions above that have been asked...or does it?

   By Bob Melia (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 09:56 am: Edit Post

Responding to Harry's post(s)
Sun Yong Tien is not a Sun family member but a senior student of Sun Jian Yun.
My Teacher met him last year and say's that he has a very high skill level in all aspects of the Sun style.


   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 11:17 pm: Edit Post

Thank you Bob...Thats what I wanted to know.

   By John Shane Crilly on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit Post

Having seen pictures of Sun Shu Rong I feel that her line is very valid. her postures are often superb and her family resemblance is unmistakeable. While I have always used Sun Jian Yun as the exemplar, I think that her picture doing single whip (she looks middle-aged) is more impressive than her aunt's [she is Sun Lu Tang's Grandaughter

   By Harry Milner (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:36 am: Edit Post

My teacher, now deceased, studied with Sun Shu Rong many years ago in China. He had only the highest compliments for this most impressive Sun stylist, teacher and Master. Though some of the movements in the form are named differently then some of the names I have seen them called they seem to follow Sun Lu Tang's original form.

   By Karl on Saturday, December 04, 2004 - 06:18 am: Edit Post


a Videoclip of Sun Yong Tien doing the form


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