Tai Chi influence in a Karate Kata

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   By Ted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 04:51 pm: Edit Post

This is pretty nice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g380rfNmsA

I heard the Karateka, Kanazawa, attained master level in Yang Style Tai Chi.


   By Stephen Ott on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 10:30 am: Edit Post

Can you explain where you see the Tai Chi in this?


   By Ted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 10:09 pm: Edit Post

Here are the ways power is generated in a karate and tai chi punch. A good karateka will train students to punch with their hips and leg muscles, the largest muscles in the body.

A Tai Chi's punch power comes from training the joints in the body, so that at the time of impact, there is a channel that conducts power from the fist to the ground and back again. So, when you punch, there is a channel that goes through the wrist, elbow, shoulder, hip, knee, ankle, and onto the ground. If one joint is bad, the channel becomes broken, so all the joints are trained equally.

I see very good whole body movement in this kata. The upper body joints are very good. Look at the shoulders during the hooks. The arms move with the whole body with very natural energy flow. Without the Tai Chi training, I would guess that the upper body would look a bit more disjointed and most of the power would come from the hips and legs.


   By Stephen Ott on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 11:25 am: Edit Post

That is a great explanation. Thanks for that!

As a side note, I have to say, that even though a lot of people dis karate these days, the experienced karate dudes I've seen who know something about actual fighting have great body movement. Agreed that it's not the same as what the internal arts do, but I think they become more and more efficient in their power use as they age.


   By Ted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 05:05 pm: Edit Post

You're welcome. I'm glad you like the explanation.


   By Tai Chi BOB on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 02:02 am: Edit Post

I see very good whole body movement in this fight. The upper body joints are very good. Look at the shoulders during the hooks. The arms move with the whole body with very natural energy flow. Without the Tai Chi training, I would guess that the upper body would look a bit more disjointed and most of the power would come from the hips and legs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccry0lkeSo
I heard the skin team attained master level in Chen Style Tai Chi.


   By Ted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 07:40 pm: Edit Post

They're so stoned they need to go shirts and skins, so they don't beat up their own teamates.


   By Tai Chi BOB on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 11:11 pm: Edit Post

and your point iz?


   By Ted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 04:16 pm: Edit Post

I don't think this is what they mean when they say to practice Tai Chi with "relaxed" body mechanics.


   By Stephen Ott on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 02:49 pm: Edit Post

"I heard the skin team attained master level in Chen Style Tai Chi."

That would be AFTER the fight, right?


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