Tim's Yang Style

Tim's Discussion Board: Tai Ji Quan : Tim's Yang Style
   By Troy on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:34 am: Edit Post

Hey Tim I was wondering what the overall make up of your Yang Style is? I know that you studied the Medium Frame, but what does that generally entail?


   By Tim on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:53 am: Edit Post

It follows the same sequence as the more common big frame form, but the footwork is different (instead of long bow steps there is a lot of follow stepping).

There are also variations is some of the forms that look more like the Wu Jianquan form than ang Chenfu's form.


   By Troy on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:17 am: Edit Post

Thanks Tim. I'm thinking about maybe doing some privates with you on it. I think it would be nice to broaden my Yang TJQ tradition.

As someone who's practiced many different martial arts, including kickboxing, and a little BJJ. I feel something is missing from the Big Frame style. Although I am considering taking up Judo as a supplement. =)


   By robert on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:49 am: Edit Post

bob2, you gotta say something...


   By Bob #2 on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 11:09 am: Edit Post

something...


   By robert on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 12:10 pm: Edit Post

...


   By Tai Chi BOB on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 02:24 am: Edit Post

students in my big frame class take lots of supplements, Centrum Silver is the most popular.


   By robert on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 01:29 pm: Edit Post

I would believe that the big frame forms are to help familiarize the dynamic movements of tai chi, then the medium and smaller frames help to internalize the movments into smaller, compact, and more subtle explosive movements.


   By Tim on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 02:13 pm: Edit Post

It is important not to confuse exercise or power training with training movements for application.

Actually, practicing all movements "big" and then gradually making them smaller is not necessary.

Would a boxer first learn to throw exaggerated punches in long and low stances to help them learn how to box? It would do just the opposite, ingraining bad habits and wasting time.

Movements should be trained as they are to be applied. If the technique calls for a big movement, the movement should be practiced big. Techniques that call for tight movements should be practiced tight...


   By Elliot on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 01:21 pm: Edit Post

Didn't Yang Cheng fu make the form bigger because he was very big?


   By Ozzy Dave on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 07:57 pm: Edit Post

To my knowledge YCF taught the large frame to develop a smooth Jin - its like physical therapy designed to stretch and strengthen the joints, especially the legs.

Fa jin movements were removed from the form to facilitate this and subsequebntly practised as seperate exercises.


   By robert on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 04:32 pm: Edit Post

yes, yes tim, very true, thanks for clarifying that:-) YOU DA MAN YOU DA MAN!lol


   By robert on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 04:32 pm: Edit Post

yes, yes tim, very true, thanks for clarifying that:-)


   By camilyon on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 02:21 am: Edit Post

Anybody know of some middle frame video?


   By Tim on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 10:24 am: Edit Post

First hit on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gtWXB5Kzcc


   By Richard S. on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:52 am: Edit Post

Yangjia Michuan Taijiquan is considered middle frame, right? This guy in LA has a couple videos up now. What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gxjb-0lpU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QidV6-GaZRM


   By Tim on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 08:40 pm: Edit Post

I don't know much about the Miquan version, but it's an interesting form.


   By Mike Hale on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 05:01 pm: Edit Post

Tim,

You mentioned you do this form with follow step. Why this form and not the Sun form which is designed with follow step?


   By Kris Pryo on Friday, July 09, 2010 - 12:19 am: Edit Post

Tim said: "It follows the same sequence as the more common big frame form, but the footwork is different ..."

The way I read Tim's reply is that the form in it's original has different footwork, not that he himself performed the footwork differently as a matter of choice ... I could be wrong.


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