http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1sK5zBRbec

What are your opinions?

Right concept.

But no one ever tries a takedown. Just like in the movies.

When I see these types of things, I always ask the same question, what if he was attacked (for real) by three guys with the same or greater amount of skill as him?

Ever wonder why there are no two or three against one fights in MMA?

I don't quote Rorion Gracie much but one thing he says:

"People are always asking me, what about multiple attackers? I say why worry about multiple attackers when you can't handle one."

Ben Peterson, former Olympic wrestler, use to say "Always train as if you are training to wrestle the best wrestler you ever wrestled".

Many styles have you train as if you are fighting a robotic idiot or a ragdoll.

I have been an advocate of tag team MMA matches for quite sometime, but Dana White will not return my calls!

"Many styles have you train as if you are fighting a robotic idiot or a ragdoll."

Reminds me of that Living Color skit with Jim Carey as a karate instructor teaching knife defense.

That was great!

For those of you who haven't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vvI26NnwE

as all beginning students, you attacked me wrong!

"Su dong Chen showing how to stack opponents up . Yes , none of the Attackers are Randy Couture with Perfect Wrestling Skills , but neither are you ."

What happens when the Natural does see this?

I thought the Su Dong Chen footage was taken when three waiters tried to stop him from leaving without paying for his pork blood soup and chicken feet.

I mean, why would someone do a serious 'demo' using 3 smaller, weaker attackers (who are obviously dexterously-challanged). That's just refriggindiculous.

Bob#2

No offense to anyone, but he filmed those in Japan, where the people are a bit smaller. Plus I have heard Su is rather large man!

"Reminds me of that Living Color skit with Jim Carey as a karate instructor teaching knife defense."

You guys do have to admit though, he is pretty tough. I know if I got stabbed 3 times, I couldn't still kick a girls arse.

"When I see these types of things, I always ask the same question, what if he was attacked (for real) by three guys with the same or greater amount of skill as him?"

Then he would lose. That is the whole point I think though. (to become better then other people). I dont think he or anyone is saying that you could do this to people who are as good or better than you. I think he is saying that if there are three guys attacking you who aren't as skilled, then this is a possible solution.

"Ben Peterson, former Olympic wrestler, use to say "Always train as if you are training to wrestle the best wrestler you ever wrestled"."

Yes that is how you should train. If you always train as if you are going to fight mayweather in a boxing match for 3 years and then box some guy with a couple months of experience...you will be notably more skilled then him. If you face mayweather though, you will probably not seem that great. Also, lots of stuff that worked on the first guy will not work on mayweather.

This is why it is fun to practice push hands with someone who never has before or who is still beginner. Often times we only test ourselves against people we train with or people who are on an equal level(look at tournament structures). Because of that, it is sometimes difficult to see the improvements that we make.

And how do 'we' feel about that?

small.

Su is very athletically built, but not "big"... probably shorter than average for Japan.

That video clip did not show anything worthwhile but Su is very skilled and very tough.

You can find plenty of big, athletic fighters in Japan but they are generally not available to act as stooges in a CMA demo tape.

"When I see these types of things, I always ask the same question, what if he was attacked (for real) by three guys with the same or greater amount of skill as him?"

That's setting the bar a bit high, isn't it? I don't think anyone would fair well under such circumstances.

"That's setting the bar a bit high, isn't it? I don't think anyone would fair well under such circumstances."

Correct. This is exactly why "demonstrations" of one unarmed man beating mulitple opponents are meaningless.

Why is that meaningless? How many people on the street are as good as mr chu. Tim, when you spar with your students you apparently do pretty well. You're probably better than your average guy on the street. You could probably make most guys look like this guy made them look. Now lets say you were to spar with someone else with similar experience, say mr luo de xiu. Do you think that you could handle him as easily as your students or the average guy on the street? my guess is probably not. In all of your competing and sparring, how often do you spar or compete against people of luo de xiu's or your experience? Probably not a whole lot huh. I have seen a few clips of you in tournaments. I have seen previews of your dvd's. You look as good doing all of that as he did doing his thing with those three guys. Does this mean that you aren't really good because the people you were competing against weren't at your level?

Yeah Tim, I thought you could walk on water! What's next, there's no Santa Claus?!?