Dr. Yang's new Martial Applications DVD

Tim's Discussion Board: Tai Ji Quan : Dr. Yang's new Martial Applications DVD
   By Richard S. on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 04:18 pm: Edit Post

Has anyone purchased the new Taiji Martial Applications DVD from YMAA?

Info and a preview clip on the website.

   By Jake Burroughs on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 12:59 am: Edit Post

If it is like everything else he does, save your money.

   By Jason M. Struck on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 08:51 am: Edit Post


   By Richard S. on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 04:43 pm: Edit Post

Hi Jake,

So you do not like any of his publications? Is it content or his presentation/teaching style?

   By Jason M. Struck on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 06:09 pm: Edit Post

what am I, chopped liver?

   By robert on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 06:50 pm: Edit Post

the guy is cool, i like his chi gong stuff.

   By Jake Burroughs on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 07:07 pm: Edit Post

Actually his books are okay translation wise, but they repeat over and over again in different formats.
My dislike comes from studying with him a couple times. Nothing more than a very average practitioner, with a PHD in selling his merchandise! I suppose homeboy does not become the first CMA millionaire on accident, but he was so blatantly obnoxious about selling his product that it was off putting. Not to mention I payed for a 3 hour long seminar, which was really a sales pitch no so quietly disguised! I told the promoter that it was BS and only because I knew him personally was the reason I was not requesting my money back.
He seems nice, but I am not confident it is genuine.
Hope that helps.

   By Kelly Crofts-Johnson on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 01:12 am: Edit Post

I do like that he is getting lots of info out there for the general public however I am not particularly impressed with though.

   By Tim on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 03:26 am: Edit Post


What do you think?

   By Tobbe on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 07:04 am: Edit Post

Hi Jake

Once on the board you said you had clips from seminariums with Tim doing taiji - stuff

Why donīt you put them together into a dvd?

Iīm sure they are better than anything thatīs out there

   By Jake Burroughs on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 10:18 am: Edit Post

I am not technically advanced enough to be honest! We should all talk Tim into doing one of his pro DVD productions on Taiji.

   By Craig on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 12:36 pm: Edit Post

I would be a customer for sure, and among many I'm willing to bet.


   By Richard S. on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 04:12 pm: Edit Post

Sorry Jason. I would of course like to hear details on your opinion as well. I just saw Jake's response first.

I have mentioned many times that Tim should do a Taiji DVD. Actually, I think that Sun style might be the least represented, so a DVD on Sun Taiji and a DVD on Sun Bagua would both be awesome.

   By Jason M. Struck on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 06:12 pm: Edit Post


What do you think?""

that's very kind of you Tim. I was just lamenting that Jake and I both said don't bother, but then the response was "why not Jake"?

Jake's spot on though. Run of the mill sort of 'wu shu' IMA, repeated ad nauseum and sold ad infinitum.

   By Dave C. on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 09:21 pm: Edit Post

I find Dr. Yang's stuff to be fairly good in most aspects. His material is definitely Taiwan flavored, probably why I like it.

His taiji qinna book and video are top notch as is his DVD on the taiji 88 sanshou form. I never fail to see something new when I watch those.

His push hands DVDs 1 and 2 are also good if you've never done push hands.

His qigong massage DVD and book are the best I've ever seen on the subject. They're a one-stop resource for the material and therefore a great bargain.

So I don't agree that his stuff is worthless or just repeated over and over.

Dr. Yang's material isn't wushu-ified in the least. When he was training here in Taiwan there was no influence from the mainland whatsoever because of martial law. This fact seems to escape most of his detractors.

I can't speak to his marketing during seminars and I've met him but never touched hands with him so I can't speak to his actual skill. But in the material I mentioned above, he comes across quite well.

   By Sugarshrimp on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 11:15 pm: Edit Post

I have some videos and books by Yang, and while I don't think them worthless, there are many reasons to be skeptical of his material.

He puts tremendous emphasis on standing chin na, especially wrist locks. He often teaches these applications with zero setup. Perhaps that's just for instructional purposes, but it can be misleading to those who don't have lots of experience with realistic sparring.

   By Jake Burroughs on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 03:18 am: Edit Post

Nope. His seminars are the same. No setup. Silly/unrealistic transitions, and though he talks all day about not muscling his Chin Na, he man handles you like a slab of meat!

   By Dave C. on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 09:03 am: Edit Post

I like his stuff because I have my own setups and system of training already. All I need is new techniques to plug into my matrix. If you have that, then his weaknesses aren't so glaring I guess.

The taiji sanshou DVD has lots of good transitions because it's a two-man form. The whole thing is a transition back and forth.

I think Dr. Yang does separate things so you'll buy more of the DVDs but it's okay with me.

As far as seminars, I'll be attending his seminars here in Taiwan in October. Looking forward to it.

   By Jake Burroughs on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 11:04 am: Edit Post

I would think with your experience and accesability to many other good teachers you would have better taste!

   By Dave C. on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 09:04 pm: Edit Post

I don't think that Dr. Yang is perfect by any means. But again, one of the main reasons I like him is that his stuff is Taiwan-flavored.

For example, I did the same style of long fist he does, so I bought a few of his DVDs to compare. I actually didn't care for his long fist but his DVD production values are good and it's nice to have a disk to review.

   By Jake Burroughs on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 09:36 pm: Edit Post

Good point.

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