BJJ in Law Enforcement Article

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   By Tim on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 11:55 am: Edit Post

Go to:

http://www.defendu.com/10_bjj.htm


   By stan (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 02:53 pm: Edit Post

Tim,

Great link. Much of military combatives rely on this type of 'essentials' for self preservation and most (at least Marine and Army) use such principles.


   By Tim on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 07:56 pm: Edit Post

Stan,
Actually, you can download the entire Army Combatives manual (the BJJ based H2H the army now teaches) online.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-25-150/index.htm l


   By stan (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 06:00 pm: Edit Post

Tim,

Thanks.


   By Backarcher on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 02:36 am: Edit Post

That's good, but I highly reccommend ISR Matrix for LEO and military. http://www.isrmatrix.org/home.shtml

It's put out by members of the SBG. It has a few elements of BJJ, like the open guard, knee on stomach and "butt scoot" and a couple other moves, an osoto from Judo...but that's about it!

The rest is made up of basic freestyle and Greco wrestling. Things you learn without a Grandmaster or a BJJ blackbelt, just a good high school wrestling coach.

The BJJ version of the clinch isn't as efficient as learning basic tie ups like a 2 on 1, arm drag, duck under, head snap "hand fighting" from greco and other more controlling elements of pummeling. That's why the Brazilians are now going to American wrestlers from their stand up grappling.

The "rear takedown" they show is a rear post from
wrestling, but there is a more efficient and "safe" way for the LEO officer, called the "Harnness".

The "full mount" isn't as safe as the knee on stomach. You need to be able to move and see behind you.

The "rear mount" isn't as safe as simple "leg riding" from wrestling. Never put your hooks in!

The "close guard" is especially dangerous, since your visibility of weapons is limited. If there, go to a De la Vera guard or open guard immediately.

The Kimura is another risky move, for as you work on one arm, the other side is blind. He could have a weapon.

And the "Rear naked"...law suit. It's a no-no! A neck crank or crossface is safer.

I train LEO officers and we go "live" with weapons. We found BJJ to have some great benefits, but we found wrestling to be the most beneficial. And you don't have to search the state for a BJJ instructor. Go to your local college of high school.

We found ISR to be the best we've tried and we have access to many programs and we all have been practicing BJJ since the early 90s.

So, don't exclude BJJ, but investigate wrestling, freestyle, folkstyle, Chinese, Mongolian and especially Greco!


   By Backarcher on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 11:14 am: Edit Post

One other thing, they show the importance of a good underhook, which is as essential in stand up clinch fighting as a guard in sport BJJ.

And the BJJ clinch gives the "bad guy" access to your belt, cuff, spray, gun, stick... It's not a good move for a LEO.


   By ho (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 02:50 pm: Edit Post

Tims, i don't know you but I like the cut of your rail. Long and lean and plenty of green.


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