Hey everyone, I have recently started training in Jujitsu. And you all seem to have very high respect for BJJ. However when i asked my sensi if what we were studying was the Brazilian form of jj, he laughed and from his response seemded offended.

In addition to that, i would like to seek answers as to what the strength/weakness's of the two are.
Does Bjj cover more than tradition JJ?

Also i have just put my name down for the school wrestling team, and i would like to know if Jujitsu is a good art for wrestling, or would i be better off taking Judo.

I am awear that each martial art is different concidering the person. So with that, i am 6foot tall, with a average reach for my height, i also have above average physical strength.

Hope to see some great feedback, Cheers everyone

we've talked a lot about judo vs. jj, which is better for crosstraining etc before. You may want to search for other posts on 'judo' and see if you can find those discussions.

i think that the key point is the teacher. if you are taught positional stuff, like how to keep a pin or mount or something, or how to pass the guard, and you get to spar some, then you'll learn a lot in JJ. If you do a lot of kata, and practice wrist lock based take downs against imaginary samurais, then maybe it won't make you a better a wrestler per se.

you are already a member of this school right? What do you think? are you learning things that you could do to people in wrestling, or no?
If you haven't really joined up yet, just ask what they teach.

There's also a few good discussions here and on various martial arts webpages, about how to find a good teacher. That's important, and it can be hard. I take it from the name that your in New Zealand, or are you just 'of NZ'?
If you had a great tai chi teacher, he would teach you more about throwing then a crappy jujitsu teacher, you know what I mean? It's more important the teacher, and the environments that they create, and methods they use to instruct.

Good response, Jason!

But...if the JJ instructor was offended by your BJJ question, then most likely he has little respect for the art and is a "wristlock", non-resisting sparring and "dead" technique type instructor.

In a good BJJ class, you'll learn most of the important "functional" tactics you'd learn in the traditional JJ class.Plus, good ground tactics.

In Judo, you'd learn good throws and most Judo classes teach Goshin jitsu, where you'd learn the same things you'd learn in the tradition JJ class, plus some good submission concepts, pinning and takedown concepts that would help your wrestling.

Can't resist!

I've said it before, but I will say it again.

The groundwork knowledge, technical base and practice methods are almost gauranteed to be better in a BJJ class than in Judo or JJ. However, I will advocate Judo as a potentially better cross training choice, because it's likely to combine standing throwing practice, as well as takedowns, grappling, and submission work. Most schools spend 75% of their time or more on their feet, which is too bad, but i've found that the sporting ones tend to attract some BJJ guys, and tend to try and spread the training out a little more. By that I mean that there are 3 primary ways to win a judo match: a clean throw, a long pin or a submission move. Smart judo coaches should realise then that there is merit in spending 66% of their time on ground skills. Still, in reality, if you cannot keep from getting thrown for ippon, ground skills are of no use. My club is about 50/50, and I love it. I just know that in BJJ, you are trading little to no standup throws for better groundwork. You gotta decide if that is what you want, or you want to mix it up more.

Is there a tournament going on at Cleber this weekend.
Are any Cyber-Smack talking champions going to compete?
Is anybody going?

PS
Does anybody know how I can get a FEMA double- wide trailer to replace my current traveleze. I want to teach Tai Chi Ju Jitsu in the double-wide and avoid all the rain falling on the De Anza trailer park this week? On student almost drowned in a puddle last Monday.

The Copa Pacifica de Jiu Jitsu is March 11 & 12 at Estancia High School in Costa Mesa, Ca.

For more info, go to Cleberjiujitsu.com

virginia state open (judo)is tommorrow, in arlington. It's probably not as cool as Copa Pacifica...

Here's a nice clip regarding competative Jiu-jitsu in street fights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8kgGJlOe4&feature=player_embedded#!

My experience, after having trained in all types of methods and quite a number of styles, is that training as a combat athlete in a combat sport, provided there is a enough time spent on the strategies used in a street fight as opposed to a sport fight, is by far the best preparation for real world self-defense.

If you can't apply your techniques "for real" in non-cooperative free sparring with trained and resisting opponents, your techniques will most often fail you in a real fight.

Kind of sort of related:

2010 USC/UCLA Rose Bowl Tailgating Brawl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jp0orUsVQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5L_ulAl9jM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-SgcdrO4VA&feature=related