Here's an article on the clinch that I wrote recently.

http://catchwrestling.net/clinch.htm

Great article Backarcher.

can you refer us to some more in depth resources? Books videos etc about the clinch?

Tom Brands: Dominant Hand Fighting Skills DVD available

J Robinson: The Philosophy of Riding DVD available

Carl Adams: System of Attack DVD available

any good?

I want to learn more about freestyle(and greco and whatever else really) wrestling. What are the best books, videos etc?

if you want, I'll trade you a excel spread sheet for a 8week smolov-like cycle that I wrote specificly for ura-nage/suplet power, based around the snatch pull. You just plug in your current 1RMs in squat, dl and snatch pull. It's pretty cool. I am still working on it. You can give me some feedback if you try it out.

The snatch pull. Balawhaahahhahhaa.

Is that performed while in your silk/latex Gi?

Plug in and snatch pull baby!

Some of the best books:

"Greco-Roman Wrestling" William A. Martell

"Winning Wrestling Moves" Mysnyk, Davis, Simpson

www.championshipproductions.com

Has loads of material. Even short clips of each DVD.

Steve Frasier has great stuff and I think has a special going now on his entire set.

Rich Salamone's Wrestling Plan Module 2 has great instruction on the clinch.

Randy C. proven material that's excellent.

I forgot to add that I've borrowed a lot from Chinese Wrestling also.

Matt Thorton's Clinch 1 and 2 gives you good basics.

cool

i could see myself diggin up the Thornton stuff about of pure bias

thanks guys.

wrestling: one more thing that I can now add to the list of things that I wished I'd done when I was a kid, but was too stupid or arrogant or cool, or something.

speaking of the clinch- John Wang at Emptyflower.com was kind enough to post this clip.

http://johnswang.com/central_police_college_sc_class2.WMV

Jason,

I don't know how old you are, but I learned most of my wrestling after I turned 30. I'll be 40 in a couple of months.

The basic folkstyle wrestling I learned in middle and high school gave me a general base. I dabble a bit in greco in the Army.

I put the wrestling aside and focused on learning TKD, JKD, boxing, Muay thai, Aikido, japanese and Brazilian jujitsu. Most other arts made wrestling seem..."second class".

When I did Wing Chun JKD trapping, I began to realize there is a better form of trapping. It was a skillset that I already had...wrestling!

So, instead of practicing my trapping, I'd focus more one how I could trap using my wrestling skills. Proven skills.

When Matt Thorton and Randy C. came along and talked of the "clinch game", I said FINALLY!

But it was only when I discovered Tony Cecchine that I was truly reminded that I didn't have to totally forget skills that I already had to do submission, I already had a base in my wrestling.

So, I started going over old skills and learning new. "Real men do Greco" was one of the first products I studied. (it's no longer available)I bought wrestling books and got all of Dennis Hall's(Olympic greco silver medalist) material.

I then came across ISR Matrix for Law enforcement. They used no fancy wristlocks, but time tested basic wrestling in their law enforcement combatives concept. This further reinforced my notion that "wrestling is a combative art".

These are concepts and techniques taught and practiced everyday to kids five years old to grown men, which are tested "alive against resisting opponents". You don't have to look back a 100 or a 1000 years and say "my master's master could make it work".(You already know this)

Even though I've actually had more formal training in Muay Thai, boxing and kickboxing, I still consider myself "just a wrestler" and I'm proud of it.

Shane,

Great video. I love that stuff!!!

i'm sending you the excel program aforementioned. I have a few people trying it out. please give it a look.

Jason,

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Good work.

i tried the snatch pull but was beach slapped like a punching bag!

Jason,

I forgot my latest discovery "Darrel Gholar - Ultimate Throws for Vale Tudo".

Very good. One of the most functional, for this guy trains Brazilian Vale Tudo fighters(Brazilian Top Team). These guys have gone from strictly BJJ guard floppers to guys who now take down seasoned wrestlers.

guard floppers
great

if you end up going through that program, shoot me some feedback

Jason,

I did go through the program. I like it. My girlfriend even likes it. I use a lot of O-lifts in prep for Judo Shiais. I may use this program.

Thanks

the volume is heavy, sort of. There's some weeks where you are just doing a lot of sets of the pull, plus either front/back squat/rdl/or deadlift. It can be tough and monotonous. But it's not as bad as the Smolov. Give it a try. Let me know how the numbers change, and where some flaws might be for you. Many of the lift numbers for the assitance stuff is based on my own numbers, and may not be universally true. I like RDLs and hence my posterior chain is much stronger than my quads compared to most lifters. So let me know if something seems out of wack.

speaking of judo shiai- i use high hang power snatches on my judokas, for starting strength.I love the scoop toss with a medicine ball or even a kettlebell for explosive. I like the front squat for strength. There's even an article out there in the internet world I wrote called ' The Front Squat: the real judoka's best friend' or something to that effect.

http://www.usadojo.com/martial-arts-articles/article-front-squat.htm

Great article!

I've preached this for years!

In prep for Shiais, I usually do interval training using various O-lifts and variations of them. I use light weight.

Thanks!

you found my article!

yeah, every sat i train some figthers from SportJudo here in Alexandria, Va. We do some sets of HH Power Snatched, then we do the cable chop/lift, and then we 4 sets of Db Circuits, which include some total body stuff like hh clean pulls and squat an push press moves to press there heart rate through the roof. They work about 3;30, and take about 75 seconds off. One or two of the fighters, (one in his early forties)is superbly conditioned, and seems to always out-gas his opponents.

That's a very good "judo" or clinch specific routine.

If I ever compete again, I wish I had a coach like you.

When you get around 40 you need advantages.

the trick is getting thick-headed and poor fighters to recognize your value before they ARE out to pasture

none of my clients are ever young. It's only once they've done it all the hard/wrong way that they start to ask questions.
like the way no one stumbles into a school like Tim's. They try the rest, get fed up, and start digging.
I wish i could change that. I wish that I could have found things the right way the first time around, and I wish that in the future that I will be giving people the good stuff their first time around.
But if you have that luxury, will you ever appreciate it?

Wisdom.

Usually, not all the time, comes with age.

wisdom comes with life experience, which everyone seems to acquire at varying rates. I've met less old farts with their head up there *** than young ones, but it's still possible, as is the converse.