http://www.dailymotion.com/boretz/video/x61if1_ruslan-sazonov-sambo-techniques_s port

Very nice.

boretz has some great videos

great power oriented technique.

'power oriented technique'

???

what about these variations are 'power oriented'?

i love how when a japanese guy does it it's 'maximum efficiency, minimum effort', but when a russian guy does it it's 'all power' or 'forced'.

i just think they suck, but thats just my opinion, and my opinion isnt worth jack squat.

i admit i made a quick judgement, but oh well, it has been made. my apologies. i watched it again, i take back what i said, i see great usage of body placement and stuff like that.

the sacrifice throws are impractical, only good for winning a quick ippon.


real judo throws are designed to be able to incorporate takedown, and submission in one smooth transition.

I can honestly say I have seen little Judo blend takedown and submission as effortlessly as you make it sound.
As for sacrifice throws being "Impractical..." why so? The sacrifice throws I know can •••• a mofo up if done on the street! Which makes them a bit practical to me!
Jake

i'll admit it, i regret what i said earlier. my apologies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6PZWCd057I&feature=related

The last armbar makes me wince every time I see it.

awesome.

cometitive judo is pretty nervewracking, it is so easy to lose. on the other hand, it creates resolve.

great clips, shows the throw to newaza concept well.

I think that Sambists are honestly the best at integrating takedowns directly into the submission.

It's extremely difficult to score the equivalent of 'ippon' in Sambo, and as such, most sambists gave up a long time ago. Hence the rolling kneebar and eight million variations of lateral drops and sumi gaeshi etc.

Don't forget that the 'suplex' is a sacrifice throw.

PS: Few judges in Judo are quick to award ippon for sacrifice throws. Hence, they score lower and carry the risk of being misjudged as a fall. Hence they are a poor gamble in competitive judo, and are truly a legacy of the Kosen 'just get 'em down' era.

when i slam someone, its to either make them hit the floor very hard, or its to land "on top!" not side by side or underneath. you see how the guy in red was able to roll out of the throw so easily? and then end up with a decent side mount position, while the thrower is on his back? great for tournaments, not so great for a real fight.

you're not trying to roll the guy around...

in the first throw, you see how the guy throws himself way off balance to the point where he has to roll and fall with his opponent to recover.

i think its rather impractical.

but you see alot of guys using this type of power judo nowadays, if it works for them, then good!

i think sambo adds a little "powerhouse" flair to judo technique, which may work for stronger bigger people.

just my opinion.

I think a lot of ippons aren't awarded for sacrafice throws b/c most of those throws are done poorly. I've scored ippons w/tomoe nage and yoko wakare at the black belt level b/c I sucked at it when I was a white belt. The criteria for an ippon in judo is different from a score in wrestling or bjj.

Masamura sensei, one of last Kosen practioners, has a beautiful sumi gaeshi, which he scores an ippon w/most of the time (his opponents aren't too keen on going to the ground w/him. Can't say I blame them.)...You see many more ippons at the elite level w/sacrifice throws b/c they execute them better.

I was a little "shocked" by the "power" comment also.

It's such a myth. Power comes from technique.

As far as sacrifice throws are concerned, well before I studied judo or sambo, suplexes(via wrestling) were my main "go to" tactic for serious situations. For I don't care how many belts you have or what kind of grandmaster you are...being suplexed on your head will not feel good.

I still keep them in my back-pocket for a rainy day.

ura nage was my go to move when I started grappling, and all I had was a decent deadlift and no technique.

now that I have been training for a few years, it's no longer a 'pick 'em up' throw.

B careful who u call a nage.

ura nage,

pretty good throw. reminds me of the classic suplex.

yes.

I got 80% of my ippons with uranage(backarch) in Judo shiais.

I just waited for their hips to come to me and...lift off!!!

thats awesome, you must have good technique.