Jiu-Jitsu and Grappling

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   By The Sheik on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 07:39 pm: Edit Post

Tim -
On your Classes page you say you teach Grappling Arts. It then lists Jiu-Jitsu as a class. Are Grappling and Jiu-Jitsu interchangeable definitions? I think of grappling as more sport.


   By the original Macaco fino on Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 06:04 pm: Edit Post

Hello Sheik,

Actually, these days the terms Grappling and Jiu-Jitsu are used to describe the samething. In my conversations with Tim, the terms are used in that way.

good training,
Macaco fino


   By marlin on Saturday, July 08, 2000 - 01:52 am: Edit Post

Grappling is a generic term for ground fighting (and sometimes wrestling)in general. Jiu-Jitsu is one form of grappling. There are many different "styles" of grappling with various techniques and rules(winning with a "fall" or "pin," winning by submission...). Nowadays, when most people use the term "grappling" they are referring to submissions.

Tim


   By Mike Taylor on Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 05:05 am: Edit Post

Hello All,
Grappling is a word -- like many -- with varied meanings, but essentially it means to seize, to fight close by embracing. However
it can mean whatever two or more people agree upon as a meaning ("Let's grapple" can mean wrestle without slapping or striking with the hands, or wrestle with slapping or striking with the hands or even biting, gouging, clawing/scratching, pulling hair, kicking, kneeing, elbowing). Are you grappling for your life, or are you grappling by pre-determined rules of sport? Both are grappling.
Ju Jitsu: there are different schools of ju jitsu (ju jutsu). Original judo is a school of ju jitsu divided into sections & slightly modified to allow a sport-like practice for proficiency in some of the grappling moves within the system (the entire system includes striking: "atemi waza"). Some ju jitsu schools specialize on fighting from a kneeling position (similar to how Greco-Roman starts from a certain position) while others have no such traditional "starting point." Some schools of ju jitsu are no-holds-barred grappling complete with clawing, biting, scratching/clawing, kicking, elbowing, head butting, etc., etc. It all depends upon what two or more people agree upon for sport purposes or of what one person comes up with in a close-combat situation. That can be ju jutsu; that can be grappling. Definitions blur depending upon agreement or disagreement. Agree (or disagree)? {:o)


   By Bob on Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 12:38 pm: Edit Post

Hey Meynard,

Congratulations on your blue belt! Good job, you made Tim proud! Keep up the good work.

Bob


   By the original Macaco fino on Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 07:24 pm: Edit Post

Hi Meynard,

Great job! Well deserved.

Joe


   By Abdullah on Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 07:35 pm: Edit Post

Congradulations bro! Hopefully I'll see you next summer.


   By Meynard on Monday, October 09, 2000 - 12:36 am: Edit Post

Thanks guys! It just dawned on me that I have to train even harder...play time is over. :-)


   By Mike Taylor on Monday, October 09, 2000 - 08:14 am: Edit Post

Congratulations Meynard -- & by George, I think you've got it (that is that which has just dawned upon you is true -- I doubt you'll get much slack, for awhile at least). {:o)


   By Duong Dai Vu on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 03:10 pm: Edit Post

Hi all,

I not sure where to post this message, but this
topic seems the best place to put it. A friend
of mines whats to learn grappling with some focus
on no gi. He ask me about Tom Medina. So I'm
wondering if anyone can give me info on him as
an instructor. I told him about Tim and try to
get him to go. I probably stop by this week,
how to see some you guys there :).

Duong


   By Meynard on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 05:12 pm: Edit Post

Duong,

Why go to Todd Medina? I think he is the one you are referring to. Tell your friend to go to Tim. Why learn a mish mash of techniques when you can actually learn a whole system from Tim? Go to the Thursday jiu jitsu class, it's no gi and then your friend can grapple no gi again during open mat session on Saturday. Personally, I'd recommend the The Shen Wu class 3 times a week and no gi jiu jitsu every Thursday. Remember that the Shen Wu class has a lot of stand up grappling techniques from Ba Gua and Tai Ji and a lot of ground grappling techniques from jiu jitsu.

See you in class! Slacker! :-) LOL


   By Duong Dai Vu on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 05:38 pm: Edit Post

I agree with you. I told him about Tim, but ...
He kinda doesn't believe me. We have this brotherly rivalry going on ... and he doesn't want
to believe anything I'm involve with is very good.
I'll try to bring him to Tim's and let you guys prove to him otherwise ;).

I'll see you there later today :P


   By Meynard on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 05:52 pm: Edit Post

Yeah, I have a friend like that. You just got to smack 'em around a little bit.


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