• Archive through August 18, 2001 August 18 - 11:32 pm [20]

Dave C,
Relax. Read my post above.

Dave C and the rest of you goobers who don't know any better, go to this link to see what actual fighters think of Tim... virtuous or not.

http://216.92.33.45/forum/Forum1/HTML/011599.html
(intheguard.com)

"the fact that BBB is actually one of Tim's students changes everything"... really??
Shouldn't it instead make you think BBB is one of Tim's students who drinks way too much coffee? Or is one of Tim's students who gets a kick out of inflaming gullible IMA dolts? (no offense intended.)

On another discussion board I once read that you are a walking tinkle stained genital blister-- should that cause me to regard you differently than I would if I had never read that (I hope)slanderous comment by some internet miscreant who may have been drastically exaggerating their feelings about your general personality?

I too have laughed at rude comments BBB and others have made (myself included) and have also thought 'good grief he's gone overboard this time'. But I can promise that if you really are embarrassed by childish antics you wouldn't enjoy Tim's classes because they are rife with humor and schoolyard antics.

by the way-- where was it stated that Tim thinks he's better than his teacher? I can't find that thread.

>by the way-- where was it stated that Tim thinks
>he's better than his teacher?

nowhere. It was Macao Fino who stated this.

GO: http://s155928123.onlinehome.us/discus/messages/26/155.html?#POST936

Volker

Guys. Listen. This post will run on continuosly and serve no point. This is a good board which is not censored (to my knowledge). I am not Tim's student, however, I was lucky enough to meet him once. From what I have seen, he is a good teacher and nice guy, who I doubt has ever disrespected other teachers on this board. If you don't like what you read, pretend you didn't see it.
Bao Wu De, would you like it if this board didn't let you ask a question and censored practically everything (they didn't take your post off). The point of a discussion board is to discuss. You are not going to agree with everything, but live with it, That's life.
Oh yeah. You were complaining about the so called students disrespecting other teachers, that is just their opinion, that is why it is called a discussion board. I am not trying to insult anyone, but I think this has gone far enough, let it end. Believe in whatever you want.

-Mark

Tim,
Okay, I'm relaxing now. I was just surprised when your name came up on another board and that was the first thing they said about you.

Shane#2,
As I said I enjoy antics as much as anyone just NOT online. But heah, I guess that's just me.

Dave C.

"As far as Tim knowing better than Luo -
My personal opinion -
Yes.

No disrespect to Luo, but the inference to never being able to surpass your teacher is ridiculous. Sun Lu Tang must of really sucked compared to his teachers..."

Volker,
I believe that you are totally taking my comment out of context. This is my opinion and MY opinion only. I was trying to state that you can have differences from student to teacher and for one person, one teacher is a better fit than the other. As I stated in that post, there is NO disrespect to Luo. Tim likes to groundfight, so do I. Tim can explain things to me in a manner that I can easily understand. We both share the same idiosyncratic language traits based upon our respective upbringings. This point has nothing to do with Tim and Luo. This point has to do with can you get the teacher's knowledge transfer easily based upon the different character traits of the two individuals involved.

As far as surpassing your teachers with knowledge and teaching ability, don't you think that a good teacher would want this from a student? That would idicate the original teacher did a very good job. It happens in Science and Technology, business, and in life. Why not martial arts? It just makes sense to me that things should be built upon, not just copied. When we just copy, we, little by little lose some of the original essence. And besides, didn't Sun Lu Tang invent something called Sun Tai Ji that he put together from the internal arts he studied? Does this mean Sun Tai Ji is not as good as Hao? In my opinion, they are both good, just some people will want to do Hao and some Sun. It's the same with teachers.

I'd also like to thank everyone for some enjoyable reading over my summer vacation.


Joe

>I believe that you are totally taking my comment
>out of context. This is my opinion and MY
>opinion only.

Joe, is my english that bad? I thought I stated clearly that this was not Tim's statement. I just provided the link "Shane #2" was asking for -- where the misundestanding about Tim thinking that he is better than Luo arised.

I did not commented it in any way and I have not cited you, but provided the link. I think therefore everybody is able read the context in which you mentioned the sentence.

>As far as surpassing your teachers with
>knowledge and teaching ability, don't you think
>that a good teacher would want this from a
>student?

I think that it is a good thing if a student is able to surpass the teacher and it is also positive for the teacher because

1. he is able and willing to teach his students all of his knowledge and

2. he (his personality) has no problem with students surpassing him.

I personally think a good teacher should wish that his students are becoming better than himself. I never stated anything different.

Volker

Volker,
Thanks for the link- it's funny to realize this
whole stupid discussion started over a butt tucking observation. And whether Tim's posture is better than Luo's.

Dave C.,
I'd bet that 'other site' is one in which folks debate whether to breathe chi in through the front foot or the back foot. They wouldn't have any interest in Tim's no bullshit style of teaching anyway. It is unfortunate that someone could be so vapid as to misread the earlier discussion and pass their misunderstanding on to others- but I personally appreciate the fact that this board is unfuckingcensored. (maybe you could be bold enough to point out to them that it was actually a student of Tim's who thinks Tim has better posture than Luo and is a more involved teacher than Luo).

I doubt the brainiac who passed on the misinformation is held in high regard on any discussion board.

"My daddy is bigger than your daddy and ..."

"hun Auh, my daddy is bigger than your daddy and..."

ah egos and politics in MA's. I am glad I was able to escape this for the most part many years ago, as it is a pain in the ass.
And MA's are supposed to help us to have good characters, less and less ego, and high intregrity. Oh, well, where there are people there are politics, whether Washington, D.C. or MA's.

And in my experience money does currupt this business.