Then again scolarly warriors such as sun lu tang and others became very proficient in martial arts. Yip man was known as a man of leisure when in foshan and one of the reasons for his skill is he had time and oppertunity to practice. There is a hang up that only people who had to use their skill as bodyguards or security men had real Kung fu.

From what I have read by people who knew him, Sun Lu-tang was from an early age a fighter/martial artist with little formal education whose later literary skills were largely self-taught.

Several of the better martial artist/teachers that I have met in modern times have similar histories and personalities. Literarcy is not always the product of an educational system.

Kenneth, all of there purposes are the same they are all about control. Military combat is about controlling your opponent, controlling them means you have defeated them. Sport compitition is about controlling an opponent within the confines of a set of rules. Health and meditation is about controlling yourself i.e. your mind and body. Self-defense is controlling someone who is attacking you.

That's like saying sex and filling your car at the pumps are the same because both involve inserting a long, hard object into an opening for the purpose of discharging a fluid. In military combat, you "control" through killing, in sport, you control through submitting, in defense, survival is the primary goal. All different, I think, although there is some cross-over of course.

Kenneth,

I used that same euphemism when it came time to have the birds'n bees talk with my daughter.

Great minds...

Using Kenneth's analogy, it is also true that it can be very expensive to get your "fill" these days either way ...

And hope that none spills over...

i explained how she's like a car (Jaguar) and how all guys are like gas station attendants: some clean, some dirty, some nice, some jerks. Some want to look under the hood so they can mess something up and charge you a bunch for an unnecessary repair. but mostly they just want to slam their long, hard, nosle in her opening and pump away with no concern at all for what happens to you (the car) after they've pumped themselves empty. and while they may compliment a car they really just want to pump the next one to add to their tally. now she cry's whenever we pass a service station. it's sooo cute!

after the talk i had her taste a little fresh petrol so she'd never EVER consider any heavy petting. i've gotta feelin' she's not going to to fall for some would-be suitors\gas attendants.

Of course sex and filling your car with gas are the same, both ignite an engine one biological the other mechanical.

I shall be extra careful lighting up after sex from now on.

This is actually starting to make sense to me....

He asked the blonde: "do you smoke after sex?".

Her response: "I dunno, I never looked down there after."

Sex can be a very explosive issue.

I hate when you guys turn everything into a frickin' joke.

Isn't Xmas a time to be Merry ... no wait, he was Pippin's "bum-boy" in Lord of the Rings!

We'd better get back on topic if Bob# II is chiding us for lack of focus.

Why did discussion of the one-inch punch turn to sex?

YOU LACK DISCIPLINE..

On a side note this thread really brightened up my day.

did you have sex because of the one-inch discussion?

I have a deep background of experience even from before I started taking martial arts in the "3-inch-thrust"

charlie,

is that 3 seperate thrusts? Or (1) 3-inch thrust?

either way I can't tell if you are bragging or complaining.

Bob#2