In which situations do you avoid a fight?

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   By european (Unregistered Guest) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 12:48 pm: Edit Post

Jon,

it's interesting 'cause I never examined that way. I drive a bike 'cause I like it.Anyway you're right.
Avoidance it's vastly superior but what the saying means is: when caught in a situation you CANNOT avoid, don't hesitate and strike.

SysOp,

thanks for explaining. You were fairly unlucky, uh?

Mike,

I agree 100% with your vision, in the broader sense. Still, paranoid sounds nasty (sick)to me. Wouldn't be better said: aware? Or: prepared?

For instance, I wear british army boots -who look really good- when driving around (gym, work etc.) ..but not when I got a date. These boots have metal in the top. Coupled with those, I wear some beautiful black leather italian gloves. They are designed for anti-riot police and have hidden iron sand. No police officer could ever say anything about those two..weapons.


   By Meynard on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit Post

I have belt and I can whip it out like pootie tang. LOL


   By chris hein on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 04:04 pm: Edit Post

i could use some "beautiful" black leather italian gloves, laced with "iron sand" myself, where can i find those european?


   By Bob #2 on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 04:19 pm: Edit Post

European,

"something learnt at the dojo or the way your parents grew you"
I've never been to a Japanese school- so that 'dojo' reference is out.

My parents didn't 'grow' me and regardless of my growth, I don't brag about wearing steel-toed boots with iron-sand riot gloves on or off dates.

When you're in Rome you're a Roman.
Do you know what you are when you're in the bathroom stall? (European!)


   By Mike Taylor on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 01:33 am: Edit Post

European,

Yes, "paranoid" sounds sick, for it's meant to & therefore is used mostly as an insult/put-down; but the masses in the US are ignorant when it comes to many important matters these days (i.e.: the French public is much better informed of US politics that the US public is), so I use such put-downs as a barometer & as a compass: I determine the climate changes & whether or not I'm going in the right direction. If one of my opinions should ever match a mass-opinion, then I know to closely re-examine my opinion. So I take being called "paranoid" (by those who have difficulty with logical thought) as a compliment, so I'm not going to argue about it (I'll even go so far as to embrace it) -- & thus fights are avoided.

Ignorance isn't always totally the fault of the ignorant, so I can be forgiving; but in the meantime, it can be difficult to avoid victimization by those that are ignorant (as they often do hurtful things thinking that they're doing the right thing). I also have to battle my own ignorance (a lifetime project it seems; so I too have to be cautious about hurting others just because I feel that I'm in the right on some matter... 'cause I could be wrong, as I sometimes am).


   By european (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 02:41 am: Edit Post

chris,

I bought those gloves while enjoying a trip in Italy.


Bob number two,

I was clearly ironic when writing about the Dojo Kun but obviously you didn't understand a damn. Infact you truly are what your vulgarity denotates: the good old kind of corageous guy, always ready to insult somebody who's 10.000 miles away.

You better notice I didn't brag anything; I didn't boast myself or shout how good I am. This is a discussion board and people exchange informations. I got to wear those things from my own experience (+ taste) and from that of people in this town who are heavily involved in martial arts and fights. Maybe somebody on this board can benefit from these informations and life experience, maybe they can give me suggestions and so on.
Now you can shut up and go grab your tenth beer at the nearby pub.

Mike,

once again I agree with you.


   By Ron (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 02:49 am: Edit Post

Bob #2
I'm always surprised how often Dojo rather then Kwoon is used on Kung-Fu boards. I hate both terms anyway. Maybe this needs a new subtopic. Naw, Meynard likes things posted willy-nilly.


   By Mike Taylor on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

Those darn ferrin' words (that's foreign words)!

You try getting rid of them, but still they creep into the language (the dictionary full of proof of this fact). Brand X has the leading stain remover, why not a word remover (one that would even remove this posting)?

I think the term "dojo" has gotten so much use that it will soon be in our dictionaries alongside words like Judo & Karate, & yes, even Kung Fu; but wait, it already is:

I've got an unabridge dictionary originally copyrighted in the late-80's (but my version was last copyrighted in the mid-90's) that reads:

do-jo (do' jo), n., pl. -jos. a school or practice hall where karate, judo, or other martial arts are taught.

It goes on to say that dojo is a Japanese word stemming from a Mandarin Chinese transliteration of the Sanskrit bodhi-manda which literally means seat of wisdom & is equivalent to Chinese daochang. Since this Webster ain't Noah Webster (whom I trust was a scholar on the up-&-up who tried to keep popular usage out of the dictionary when incorrect, or would make a note of such usage to draw attention to the fact... but not so those who followed him in making dictionaries, so), this info is suspect as to its accuracy.

Kwoon got no mention. So once again we see that sometimes our mass exceptance of something has nothing to do with correctness/exactness, but rather with popularity & a group usage (in other words -- much mis-understanding). Also, people often give weight to the opinions expressed in published writings (such as found in newspapers & dictionaries), or media given a national platform (such as what some "news" anchorman has to say). Right or wrong (often wrong), that's how it is (& that's why pres. Clinton once said it depends on what the meaning of "is" is -- because these sly ones are always manipulating meanings... adding & subtracting).

So, avoiding a fight -- and especially avoiding losing a fight -- can be very difficult where semantics & general knowledge are involved (i.e.: a courtroom; better in a courtroom than a morgue you say -- truly so; but without the aforementioned semantics & general knowledge, even with a jury of your so-called peers, you'll find yourself in a kangaroo court). The masses are truly miseducated (by design; after all, you couldn't get a truly educated "American" to even enlist in a standing army, let alone get himself tangled up in the affairs of foreign countries; but today we're clueless as to what our founding fathers had in mind for us because our minds are on government; not drugs... government; and all government tends towards tyranny... our founding fathers said so).


   By Hissho (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:50 am: Edit Post

Mike-

Not to get the thread off track but sounds like your info on the word dojo is correct.

In Japan it has only been used recently, say the last few hundred years, for a martial arts training hall. It used to refer to places of religious worship from what I understand.

And Japanese uses kwoon all the time - Kodokan, Shotokan, Bujinkan and the older -kan's. Kan is the Japanese pronunciation of guan, which in Cantonese can be transliterated as "kwoon."


   By Meynard on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:37 am: Edit Post

Ron,

I think you should have been a librarian.


   By Ron (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:53 am: Edit Post

LOL. I like that Meynard. I know I am anal. I'm a Computer programmer. What can I say? It comes with the territory. :-)


   By Bob #2 on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit Post

Euro-

You were braging: "i wear british army boots- who look really good..." and "....beautiful black leather italian gloves..." only Nancy boy's and braggers would make a comment like that (notice I didn't call you a Nancy boy... I showed you some respect and pretended I thought you were braging).

As to your comment; "the good old kind of corageous guy, always ready to insult somebody who's 10.000 miles away." Thanks! And rest assured that if I was in a Gym and you sauntered in wearing your terricloth shorts and your beautiful army boots I would be laughing too hard to insult you to your gnarly-toothed face.

Does it bother you that some British soldier is running barefoot through a mine feild right now?




   By Meynard on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:51 pm: Edit Post

Librarians have the easiest jobs too. At the State University they make up to $100,000 yearly. What do they do really do?


   By TheLibrarian (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:38 pm: Edit Post

SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Hush you twerp or I'll crush you with my paycheck.


   By Mike Taylor on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:24 am: Edit Post

Meynard,

State University librarians ensure that the really important books are unavailable for the serious student to review (at least that was my experience; I was amazed just how many important books on government & law showed up on the computer as "in" the library, but the shelf space was empty, & no one around was reading them; once I was told that they were locked up in another room & that I couldn't go into the other room because they were renovating it -- you know, everyone puts their most valuable books in a room that's being renovated... oy!... oh, yeah, & I was told the renovation would take months, so the books wouldn't be available for a very long time) -- & that's probably why they get the big bucks (from a government educational system that strives to keep the public ignorant -- really).

I guess this way librarians help to avoid a fight -- while silently waging war against us (because if the masses were to know the truth, then they'd turn on their so-called "leaders").


   By Ron (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 02:26 am: Edit Post

Meynard;
I now know why the California state budget is in problems!

Reminder to self:


   By Mike Taylor on Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:19 pm: Edit Post

Q: In which situations should we avoid a fight?

A: In all situations.

To fight is to struggle. We need to learn how to avoid struggling: struggling against others, ourselves, nature/physics, et. al.

Note to SysOp: Back on topic. :-)


   By Spanky (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 12:36 am: Edit Post

Dont fight. Yeah, kind of like, you know, I heard that Chairman Mao, after he took over the country, would never touch two things - weapons or money. Thats power, when you dont need to fight or pay for anything.

Of course, just cause you see Chairman Mao happens to wear a nifty green hat with a little red star on it, does that mean that if you wear a nifty green hat with a little red star on it youll be as cool as Chairman Mao? Nah, you'll just be some guy in a funny hat.


   By Mike Taylor on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 01:19 am: Edit Post

Spanky,

Feel free to whack an assailant into next week if necessary, but just learn not to fight while doing so (that's the message I'm spreading; the message that I'm just starting to understand myself). Fighting causes needless tension & tiredness among other not-so-good things; so avoid it.

And avoid wearing those funny party hats! :-)


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