If you are alone for instance and driving and people in another car talk s-t and give you fingers and threaten you do you follow them and fight? Or leave it be and be afraid of being shot or a knife pulled on you by strangers? Does it matter how many of them there are or how they look? What if they start following you do you run or confront them and risk injury or offer to fight? Does it make you a coward if you try avoiding these situations and fear getting stabbed or shot?

my opinion:

I can only think of a few reasons to fight someone.
1- to protect someone who otherwise cannot
protect themselves.
2- in response to a direct threat to your own
safety. (an immediate threat)

I don't think it makes one a coward to avoid a fight where neither of the above are present.

If you're being chased in a car- you're being chased in a CAR... so keep driving, take down the license number and discripton and call the cops or better yet- pull into the nearest police station. If the other car hits you or traps you- do what Sysop did- block their initial punches and give'em one backhand that breaks his jaw- knocking him out- falls straightdown- splits his knee cap- cracks his skull on the pavement... while on the phone w/911.

Lastly- always remember- if one man offers another man a gift but that man refuses to accept the gift- who does the gift then belong to? (a. some idot offering anger doesn't mean you have to make it yours).

Arek

Some of things you are considering are illegal, also you would lose your 'mantel of innocence'. If someone offers you a fight and you accept, then it is not a self defense situation.

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I heard that bjj people are notorious for this kind of stuff. They provoke fights, internet challenges, and choke people out left and right (even untrained civilians). They are known to be bullies of martial arts. Anyone confirm this?

This happened to me once. I was in Chinatown at a fourway stop. Anyway I think the guy thought he should have gone first, but I pulled out in front of him. So, he drives next to me and starts yelling and saying he is going to kick my ass and I should pull over. He was driving a honda with the back windows tinted dark and he had a buddy riding shotgun. So I say, f you back and I will pull over and beat the crap out of you. So the next street I pull over. He parks behind me. I get out and all four of his car doors open up. Three more guys stepped out of the back seat.

My GF at the time was watching the whole thing unfold. 5 against 1, interesting odds, I thought.

Be careful who you pull over for and watch out for those tinted windows.

Good thing you had your GF with you . . .

Yeah she watched me kick ass, it turned her on and then I went home and I f'ed her good.

Mcdojo,
Where did you "hear" all this?

five against one?! at what point did your gf turn on you?

So you beat the crap out of 5 guys and one had a shotfun all by yourself? What style did u use?

No. Fighting is bad.

So how did u escape unscratched?

"So how did u escape unscratched?"

Qi blast, of course. Anything else is simply low-level.

"How did you escaped unscratched?"

I gave him (the driver) a chance to escape injury and he took it.

Hmm, you must be one of those BJJ bullies

bbbj...i read about that once on the internet.•••• involves oral copulation sans condom.

Tim, I heard that on a judo forum.

McDojo,
If you have a chance, you might visit a legitimate BJJ academy sometime and form your own opinion.

Tim,
Why should anyone actually go to a martial art school and look at things for themselves? Gees man, It's all over the net, and on the T.V. What would be the good of going anywhere or meeting anyone.
What cha do is just look around on the net, and watch the T.V. and then order some tapes of who ever is tough on t.v., and see if the nabor kid will come over and let you use your new stuff on him. Thats how you get good! Duh!

This confirms it. Chris Hein is nuts! I feel sad for all the nabor kids on your block. They probably go home every night and tell their momma that a big with gorilla tried some t.v. kung fu on them.