Hi

Found this
http://www.fight-club.biz/fights.php

It says some of them are real fights - dont know about that but they are fun to watch

Interesting material, I watched the "real fights."

The TKD fighter won two of his fights on the ground with armbars, the Muay Thai fighter won with ground and pound, one Karate fighter won with an armbar from the guard, another Karate figher won with a guillotine from the guard.

The only fight won on the feet (by fighters from traditional stand up styles) was by a TKD fighter's leg kick.

It makes me wonder how long the fights between traditional stand up stylists would have gone on if none of them knew at least some basic ground fighting.

The MMA fighter (as expected) won with a RNC and the the Ju Jitsu fighter won with a choke from the mount, in the two fastest fights on the list.

"It makes me wonder how long the fights between traditional stand up stylists would have gone on if none of them knew at least some basic ground fighting. "

Tim, do you think that people generally feel safer on the ground compared to sharing strikes on their feet? so even with less time in ground fighting compared to their respective traditional standup styles, are more willing to take it to the ground? Or do you feel that the delivery system of their standup wasn't as realistic as their training on the ground so they resort to ground fighting? Or do you think that it's more a matter of fights generally go to the ground?

Thanks,
Craig