Karate Fighting

Tim's Discussion Board: Off Topic : Karate Fighting
   By Tim on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 03:51 am: Edit Post

I like this clip (except the soudtrack by Satan).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA7J4HtJY4g&search=karate


   By Jason Todd on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 08:51 am: Edit Post

What's your impression?

Most (99%) of the stand up fights or sparring I've ever seen in my life seems like it's a slug fest free for all. Ultimate Fighting (UFC) stuff as well as everything else. If they don't go to the ground, it looks like Western Boxing with a few kicks here and there. But from my readings and if I understand Chinese "internal" fighting strategy correctly, isn't the best method (especially when facing a bigger/stronger opponent) to angle and manuever while in "dance/flow" with your opponent while in constant touch contact with him until you can lock/throw him which sets up a striking opportunity?

How come none of these "expert" fighters ever do that? If the fighters do move in to "short range" then they sorta hug eachother and throw an elbow or knee or sometimes stomp the guy's foot (occasionally you see a "strained" takedown). But there's no "sticking and neutralizing" manuevers.

When I was younger, I thought this strategy was just BS (that is, impossible to perform). But I saw one fighter do this "dance/flow" stand up grappling strategy I'm talking about. He won every match I saw him fight in too. But this guy I saw live. He studied Taiji and when he was a kid some kung fu style I never heard of. He was from another country, South Africa, not USA. But he would make contact and then sometimes immediately and other times after a few neutralized exchanges his opponent would end up unbalanced or with his arms all entangled or sealed to his body and then wham, he'd get hit or thrown, sometimes even wrist locked while standing up. But once his enemy attacked and he got touch, his opponent often looked like he was constantly trying to "disengage" but couldn't. Not that he had special abilities or anything, he just kept the flow and hence knew what his opponent's next move would most likely be.


   By Michael Andre Babin on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:22 am: Edit Post

A fighter with natural talent for angles, distance and timing can seem magical against opponents who are experienced but have less such "magic".

Real fighting, or anything that approaches it, will always look sloppy and slippery as both people are constantly trying to wear each other out and/or out-manuevere their opponent -- unless one is badly over-matched.

Only in the movies and indifferent martial arts schools do you see distinct techniques and complicated locking applications in a sparring context.

Developing technique has an important place in a training environment; but principles and solo conditioning and unrehearsed two-person training are more important in the long-run from a self-defense perspective.


   By Jason Wang on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 05:50 pm: Edit Post

Not an expert on techiniques and/or theory, but I do think this is another step into building additional confidence and reflex for real fighting..a.k.a. self defense of martial artists. Seems any technique no matter how effective and fluid is often masked behind fear; ducking, brute strength, anxiety, and momentarily memory loss of techniques.

Also, it is just fun to watch..........


   By mozart on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 05:17 pm: Edit Post

that's a great clip!! seems like a good circuit to train in before stepping it up to full MMA rules.


   By David (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 06:58 pm: Edit Post

Here's the full clip: Nice groin shots!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RMjGQk-k2ZA


   By marc daoust on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 03:18 am: Edit Post

i had something to say about everything
exept this one.
"nice groin shots!"
ouch!!! that!
i guess they're having a "balls"!hahaha


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