How old are you 2dbb?

91

Why don't you think I trained with Royce?

well i don't care what you think, i know relson
personnaly.
you're a brainwashed BJJ guy,the gracie are not
invincible,sakuraba beated 3 of them (including
royce,he stalled the fight for a hour and never
got close to a submission)
frank shamrock just knockout ceasar.
bj penn beated rodrigo and royler.
the list goes on.
just look at the records matt 40-4-0
royce 13-1-2
half of royce win happened in the mid 90's
most of matt's happened after 1999.
he fought twice as many times.
carlos newton beated renzo by decision in pride,
matt hughes beated newton twice (the second time
very clearly)
i would not even be surprise if matt would catch him in a submission.
he trains with jeremy horn who's just as good on the ground.
2ndDBB get a clue,your the one that never met a gracie or train with them.
oh sorry maybe you went to a royce seminar
where you learn 25 different gi chokes.
stop jacking off to UFC 1-4
10 years gone by and it's UFC 60 now!

still waiting for a reply???
i guess i'm right,i knew it all along!
you can't argue the facts!

i was watching royce and sakuraba's fight,
man oh man, sneezing i generate more force than
royce punches,why does he wear gloves,it just slows him down!!

suck it royce fan!!!!!!!!!!!
matt rocks!!!!!!!!!!

What are you a groupie following the fighting circut giving head. Who else do you know personally?

Have you been checked for AIDs or anal herpes.
Please seek treatment as the syphillis is most likley affecting your thinking.

yes, i have aid's.
tell your mom to go get check!!!!!!

p.s you can call me daddy now.

Yes, I have my own problems. Whether these fighters win or lose, it will not effect my life.

Here's Royce in his last fight versus a 155lb guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPKj3oALDTc&search=Tokoro%20gracie

Hey, don't sleep on Karate. They have a form of competition that's much more hardcore than the UFC. It allows knees, strikes, takedowns, timed grappling,in addition to headbutts and groin strikes:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RMjGQk-k2ZA


Besides, more than one K-1 champ has had a Karate background. Regardless of the style, if a fighter has the necessary attributes, he will connect.

you're an idiot,how is this even close to MMA???
they are padded from head to toes.
they barely grapple.my guess is that you never taken a shot with your head against the ground
and never felt the difference beetween padded
and unpadded strikes.
don't tell me you have,because you wouldn't have said that if you had!!!!

p.s.get yourself a real MMA fight(with elbows and knees) against a good fighter and tell me how you fell the next day.one thing is sure those padded
guys won't fell the same.
plus those guy would't last a round with anybody a their weight!!!!!!!!1

Uh, it does allow elbows and knees. The only padding they have that fighters don't have in the UFC is the headgear, and that's so they can allow headbutts. This is an offshoot of Kyokushin tournaments, which were bare knuckle (but no hands to the head). Head gear doesn't keep fighters from getting knocked out, it keeps them from being completely brutalized. Headbutts and groin kicks aren't allowed in any other major tournament in any other way. It has everything, even though you only have thirty seconds to make something work on the ground, but even still, it's an exciting form of competition.

I don't know why you're telling me that I've never taken a shot unpadded. That's illogical, seeing as how you have no idea who I am. I've never competed in a Daidojuku tournament. This has nothing to do with my personal ego or fighting experience. I only posted to show that Karate had a hardcore form of competition, since someone questioned why Royce would train in Karate since he's about 'real fighting'. I don't even train Karate. So spare me the ad hominem.

they wear bigger gloves,shin pads and i bet knee and elbow pads.
a headbutt with a headgear is not a headbutt,
because it can't cut you.
and the fact that they hit each other in the balls
doesn't make them tougher,it make them idiots!

Of course a headbutt with headgear is still a headbutt. It has a smaller chance of cutting you open, but it will put you out regardless. They do not wear bigger gloves, elbow or knee pads, or shin pads.

http://www.daidojuku.com/eng/home/graphics/shop/yamazaki01.jpg


but anyway, no point to argue it. If you don't dig it, that's cool.

the first karate man in space,now that's cool!

First marc why y so rude to wuwei??????

I think also that this kind of fight is maybe closer to reality than ufc. Why not protect the head with a head gear????? We are humans and our head is a very import part!
And if we talk about ufc, ufc was may on the beginning close to reality and the fighting time was mostly much shorter the average fight time now. But now with a lot of rules, a lot of money , the rules makes the fighting time longer, so more fun for the watcher, more money for the promoter and more damage for the fighter'•••••••• is more sport the reality fighting!!
And jee, do y now what's mostly happen to a professional boxer? Mostly the start to babble, so can't speak like a normal person, because the brain took to many hits. Do you like to babble or have for the rest of y life a brain damage?
Is there really a need for just for proving our ego's, to destroy our brains or bodyˇ¦s?

First marc why y so rude to wuwei??????

I think also that this kind of fight is maybe closer to reality than ufc. Why not protect the head with a head gear????? We are humans and our head is a very import part!
And if we talk about ufc, ufc was may on the beginning close to reality and the fighting time was mostly much shorter the average fight time now. But now with a lot of rules, a lot of money , the rules makes the fighting time longer, so more fun for the watcher, more money for the promoter and more damage for the fighter'•••••• is more sport the reality fighting!!
And jee, do y now what's mostly happen to a professional boxer? Mostly the start to babble, so can't speak like a normal person, because the brain took to many hits. Do you like to babble or have for the rest of y life a brain damage?
Is there really a need for just proving our ego's, to destroy our brains or bodyˇ¦s?

i'm not rude (but almost)
being a MMA fighter myself i don't like
when someone come around with some cheesy
clips of some sloppy guy wearing motorcycle
helmet and shin pads (i saw on the clip the shin pads over the feet)fighting 2 minutes round
with almost no grappling time,
saying that those karate space cowboys are
more hardcore than real MMA fighters.
let me tell you something,yes you might get a little rocked get hit with a headgear,but in the back of your mind you know you won't get hurt
too bad.
now when you know that it's fist to face,
bone to bone hard blows,it changes a lot of things.
your body release a lot more endorphine,andrenaline and your mind don't quite work as fast.when you go into fight or flight
mode that when you seperate the karate boys from the mans!
and if you do martial art scared of being hurt
or brain damage(boxing is worst for that because
of the glove they get hit more times and they can get knockout many times in a fight as long as they get up before the count.)
you need to question your status as a warrior
and a martial artist!
maybe your the kind of guy who does this •••• for fun and fitness,well pick up racketball!
fighting is not a game and there might be rules but
it's not a sport (society has rules for everything)
p.s."the head is a very import part"import from
where,china?

I've competed in MMA tournaments too, and the hands are every bit as wild and sloppy as anything you saw in the daidojuku HIGHLIGHT. Since that was a highlight, the footage was from the more intense moments of the fights. You shouldn't judge technical skill by that alone. And I'm sorry, but sport fighting *is* a game. We don't even get injured as badly as football players. You sound like you're living in fantasy land. Fighting to win is nothing like fighting to protect those you love. The only thing they have in common is that people are getting hit. (Hopefully)

You don't seem to understand that the headgear is for headbutts. Headbutts habven't been allowed in the UFC since when? Daidojuku also allows groin strikes. Does the UFC? No. But I guess that doesn't mean anything since they wear cups 0_o I don't know what world you're from, but a tournament that allows those techs, and a measure of time on the ground is pretty hardcore. It's not as grappling intensive as the UFC, but therein lies the brutality. This format is one that enforces activity.

A little write up by Gabe Ruediger:

http://onthemat.com/training_report_japan.html