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Tim's Discussion Board: Off Topic : Kimbo vs mma fighter sean gannon: Archive through April 01, 2006
   By marc daoust on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 08:25 pm: Edit Post

i just think that the internet world made too big of a deal about that fight!
i respect anyone with the balls to get in
serious fight!
i'm a Arlovski fan too.
i wonder what could he do against
fedor or cro cop or nogeira?
it's kinda weird how eastern european fighters
are so good!
i think they recycled their nuclear program into sport supplement!hahaha!
ps i don't mean to be a ass,i just am!!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 10:00 am: Edit Post

Yeah, you could be right..media hype! I really think that deep down inside many people wanted to see Kimbo in a fight with someone that wasn't afarid of him. Adrei would do well against the fighters you mentioned,he is a superior striker, but I'm not sure of his ground game. All the fights that I have seen have ended fairly quickly with not much mat work. He did win one or two by submission. He has a rematch with Tim Sylvia Apr 15....should be a show. As far as Eurpoean fighters being so good, that's a very good question and point! I wish I colud answer that.
P.S. I don't think you are a Ass. It's cool to be able to speak your mind so freely. Not everyone can be PC. In fact it's probably one of your strengths!
Later


   By Trevor Brooks (Unregistered Guest) on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 04:07 pm: Edit Post

OK we get the picture. To all you Kimbo fans, if this big, black piece of had a brain cell in that mug head of his, he might have escaped being choked by the better man Gannon. Now despite him laying a few punches, his black ass got handed to him on a plate. It's amusing that this video didn't have his "bad azz crew" talking considering the only in this video was the fighter who got knocked out. Despite Gannon's face looking a mess after the fight, he still didn't look half as ugly as Kimbo.

Yours truly
The Prodigy Trevor Brooks


   By marc daoust on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 07:56 pm: Edit Post

PC? piece of ? i was glad to just be a ass!!!
so you think that arlovski's striking is as good
as crocop?or that he could grapple with nogeira?
i don't think so,but unless they fight we'll
never know!
and if kimbo's getto hustler friends would have
stay the out of it,he would have lost even
worst.
but kimbo is a lot more of a athlete than gannon
could ever be!if he would train MMA like gannon did,he would have killed him!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 05:11 am: Edit Post

MMA is not an avenue Kimbo should travel. Bare knuckle street fight or at best a little boxing..you know Tough man type of thing! The guys that participate in MMA...at least the succssful ones have many years of experience under their belt. Whether it's Wrestling,Karate,Ju Jitsu they have some kind of foundation and they build from that. One mistake with these guys and they will have you picking up your dentures!! Break an arm or simply choke the out of you! Sure there have been guys that get in the ring from time to time and land a few punches, maybe even get a KO, but by in large the contenders and pretenders are separated by training, skill and experience. Oh by the way Marc I meant Politically Correct...but I think you knew that!


   By marc daoust on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 09:18 pm: Edit Post

you still haven't told me what PC means?
i'm just saying that gannon trains MMA and he's fat.
kimbo street fight and look ripped?
kimbo has more talent and genetic in him
no matter if he knows it or not.
and no matter what you say.
i could train kimbo for 2 months and he would
kill gannon the"faggon".

ps.politically correct????
i'm not sure what that means?not in my nature.
i don't believe in politics anyway!
and nothing you say can offend me!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 06:08 am: Edit Post

So...are we only talking Gannon or other fighters...let's say mid level competitors. Good fighters, but not at the top of the food chain. I'm sure you could teach Kimbo a few submission holds and some counters moves. But don't under estimate Gannon, we relly didn't get an opportunity to see his MMA skills due to the enforcement of the rules(or interference)depending on who you wanted to win! Maybe I just don't want to believe you can take a crash course in MMA and be competitive against fighters that have been training for years. I see your win over Robert Bailey was by submission!!! Do you still compete in MMA events?

PS.. When did the Gannon/Kimbo fight take place? Anyone...Anyone!


   By B_rad on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 02:51 pm: Edit Post

Kimbo trains in Miami, FL at the Freestyle Fighting Academy with David and Marcos Avellan.

He's still young, only about 27 or so. he has talent, but probably a real bad attitude and thinks his prison standup game is enough. He'd get destroyed by fighters like Arlovski.

I think the fight took place early last year.


   By marc daoust on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 07:51 pm: Edit Post

I AGREE! i don't think a crash course would be enough
to beat (arlovski)
but it could have help against gannon!
kimbo is built like a big rendelman (or so)
but what if he could train 6 hours a day?
and i'm not a kimbo fan!
i guess the only thing he learn in prison is not to turn his back!(now that's a good one bob!)

yes i still train MMA,i train with team quest in
Oregon!great team by the way.
i'm more comfortable with grappling(or i was)
why strike with the world champ KB?
not that i can't strike!
why swim with the sharks,when i can swim with the
mermaids?
ps.IN A FIGHT YOU DO WHAT YOU CAN NOT WHAT YOU WANT!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 09:18 pm: Edit Post

Team Quest has a pretty good stable of fighters! It most be amazing working and training with world class athelets!

What do you think of the up coming Arlovski vs Sylvia fight, or the Hughes vs Grace in May? The Gracie fight will defintely go to the mat, and I've never seen anyone out-mat Gracie!

Who is next for Chuck Liddell?


   By marc daoust on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:48 am: Edit Post

this is just my opinion,no hate responses,
please!hell no i'm just saying that!
arlovski and silva?it's a no brainer;
ufc sucks so bad in the heavy weight division
that the best contender is sylvia!
he's somebody because he beated a nobody?
ricko rodrigez?what a fat !
sylvia beated him with 1 move
"a whip over"!
i know this dude(and i mean dude)he trained with
sylvia and they condition the out him
and he's 185 lbs.then he sparred with sylvia
(he was fresh!)and sylvia kick him in the head
and cutted him,then he acted like he just won
the belt!what a ass!arlovski all the way!!!!
matt vs. royce!royce who?
royce is way over his head.
yes he's got a guard,but then what?
matt he's gonna kill him on the feet,and then on the ground he's gonna cut him the up with elbows and get back up!!!!!!
i call a cut stop or a dicision for matt,
royce is dead!


   By marc daoust on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:49 am: Edit Post

bob, sorry i had to use the dots!
i hope you forgive me?


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 04:18 am: Edit Post

There you have it ladies and gentlemen! You heard it here first Right Here! I kind of figured you would go with Arlovski, but I am very surprised at your prediction on the Gracie/Hughes fight.Not that Hughes would win, but in the fashion and ease you predict. Hughes is indeed tough,but when it comes to the mat remember Gracie started it all!! Let's see how well your crystal ball works!! Do you favor Pride over UFC,or are they one in the same.


   By B_rad on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:58 pm: Edit Post

Arlovski by KO. I do agree the HW division is lacking some talent. Branden Vera would be a good fight Arlovski.

I think Hughes will win by boring decision or controversal early reff stoppage.

LHW, next to face Chuck should be Babalu or Rampage if the contract chit is worked out


   By marc daoust on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 08:50 pm: Edit Post

rampage is gonna fight in UFC?cool!
i forgot that one,babalu needs to get another
shot at liddell,just a lucky kick the first time.
babalu beated van arsdale faster than couture
could of dreamed to!
i like pride better,i think.
but they should put there greedy egos aside for a little bit and realize that if they would merge
into one organization it would get bigger
here and japan.no more contract BS and more
money for the fighters(ufc fighters deserve more!)
hughes is gonna beat the crap out of royce!
matt will stick to his game plan,and royce doesn't have one!take him down,no way!
strike with him,please!
royce is ready for retirement!
just like rickson.he'll go tell his kids how good he was,back when people didn't know the ground game.what if the indians had guns?


   By marc daoust on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 03:08 am: Edit Post

royce is gonna lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 03:52 am: Edit Post

I would love to see a mach between Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silvia....I've seen Silvia here in Japan many times and he has been kicking Ass for a while!He lost to Mark Hunt, but think he was out-sized by Mark Hunt, plus Hunt has a nice chin. Silvia and Liddell are both intimidating fighters and super intense. Niether would back down from the other!I think they are around the same weight 200lbs or so which should make it a do-able thing! Okay...Okay...Okay....Marc you like Hughes, we get it!!!

PS I'm familiar Renato "Babalu" Sorbal, but I'm not sure if I know Ramapge?


   By marc daoust on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:06 am: Edit Post

you live i japan and watch pride?
you don't know quinton jackson?
he fought silva twice!
"neither would back down from the other!"
isn't that liddell's whole game,back back and punch?
but i think silva would take it to him so bad that he couldn't do that!it works with the guys
that hesitate!
rampage beated the crap out of liddell!but he lost to silva badly(the first time the ref shouldn't have standed them up so quick,but we gotta keep the black man down,or up ?don't we?)
i'm not really a hughes fan,but i think he can
beat royce!
i'm a st-pierre fan,i'm from montreal too!!!!!


   By Fight Fan (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 07:35 am: Edit Post

I know him as Quinton Jackson...not Rampage! He is exciting, but I don't think he is a complete fighter! I saw the rematch with Silvia. Silvia dominated him from the start. He laughed and smiled in Quinton face as he punished him all over the ring! As far as keeping the blackman up,down,in, or out I don't know what you are referring to. The fight with Liddell was 3 years ago. Do you think it would have the same results? St.Pierre fan ...I've only seen him fight once! Montreal..uh! I guess you got be from somewhere!


   By marc daoust on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 06:36 pm: Edit Post

you seen him fight once?
trigg,karisan,sherk,hughes or penn?
he's fought everyone in the 170lbs!
quinton killed liddell and silva killed jackson
,so what would happen to the running fighter that
chuck is,if he would fight silva?