Reality Strikes harder than Chi

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   By Shane on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 08:09 pm: Edit Post

This is interesting....

1- an impressive, magical mystical chi power teacher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tib2Urowsdc



2- the impressive, magical mystical chi power teacher verses a real opponent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQeUkUO5ZPo


   By Tim on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 09:24 pm: Edit Post

The amazing part is the Aiki "master," apparently with no real fighting ability whatsoever, accepted a challenge from a guy willing to actually hit him. The "master" obviously thought he really had some mysterious power.

The sad part is he had a whole dojo full of students.


   By Mark Hatfield on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:09 pm: Edit Post

Sometimes the 'masters' start to believe their own hype. While some students knowingly go along with the act others convince themselves that the 'master' really is doing something to them.

The Aikido founder, while very skilled, seems to have used psychology in some of his more 'spectacular' demonstrations. Reportedly, in one demo where he knelt facing away from a person who had a handgun and challenged them to actually shoot him, he stopped it, stating that with this person the demo would not work as they would have actually shot him.


   By robert on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:13 pm: Edit Post

that guy clearly did not know how to fight, i would've stopped it in the first round.


   By Elliot on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 03:34 am: Edit Post

Obviously the young karate guy cheated by actually making contact.

robert,
That was the first round.


   By robert on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 02:27 pm: Edit Post

okay then, i wouldve stopped it after the first punch.


   By Bob #2 on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 05:28 pm: Edit Post

but then the chi-hugger would have said it was all part of his stratagy and the ref stopped the fight just before he exploded the other fighter's heart, lucky thing for him.

Letting him recover and then end up in a ball on the floor was a good way to end it. I wonder if he altered his teaching methods after that match.


   By Stephen Ott on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 10:13 pm: Edit Post

First off, I would hardly put Ueshiba in this joker's class. Ueshiba was an accomplished martial artist before he even started Aikido.

But anyway...

I know some of you may find this question laughable...but I really do wonder what is happening with those students. I mean, do you think teachers are telling their students " Hey, kid, I know you've been working your butt off for years to develop some real skills, but it's actually a bunch of crap. So, when I point at you, just do some kinda funky chicken moves. I'll split the tuition with you when people sign up."

I think most students would walk away. So, they feel/experience something, right?

Any ideas?


   By Mark Hatfield on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:19 pm: Edit Post

Some students go along with it beleiving that develops their 'sensitivity' to the instructors 'intention'.

What I intended to convey about Ueshiba was that in some of the more dramatic demonstrations he was able to utilize the common hesitation of many people to attack him for real with 'live' weapons. This does not detract from his very high level of skill.


   By Elliot on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:50 pm: Edit Post

Any ideas?

I have an idea. Drink this Koolaid and you'll fly to the mother ship behind the comet.

Those people probably felt/experienced something too. And it got them dead.

Too bad for the faker in that clip the karate guy didn't "feel" anything.


   By Stephen Ott on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 03:47 pm: Edit Post

I get you re:Ueshiba.

Sensitivity to intentions. I guess that makes some sense. There are so many videos of people doing flakey stuff like that, that I guess it has to make some kind of sense to the students. For a chuckle, I'd love to hear the rationale as to how that is supposed to apply to fighting.

I guess my first quesiton, as a student, would be, " So...what if I wasn't so sensitive to your intentions?"


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