Archive through September 30, 2007

Tim's Discussion Board: Off Topic : Last night I swore to leave this life behind: Archive through September 30, 2007
   By Enforcer on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 05:41 am: Edit Post

Of fighting, violence, and trying to get vengence on vairous people I ahd on a hit list. And the reason it all seemed clear to me that it was pointless and I will never become vicious enough for this life or have the fearlessness for it and fighting ability and jdugement making at the right times for it is this:

I was beaten with a single punch by some Samoan beast, and it was the hardest hit I ever took in a fight inside or outside the sparring gyms and ma schools or numerous fights Ive gone into including some where a huge bouncer twice my size had to hti me about 4 times ebfore I finally fell and got upr ight away.

This is what happened. I was walking and tlaking to this guy I kind of knew who id rank a beer with, than as I talk to someone else I turn around and notice this Samoan guy who looks a bit bulky but wasnt any bigger really than me imo (although other ppl later claimed he was) was hassling him and trying to provoke him or look for an excuse to attack him. So after waiting awhile seyeing this guy I knew back down and the guy kept pesturing him, I decided to restrain him by putting him in a rear naked choke like I did that one time in the party I mentioned here where I told the guy later "you dont know what Ive been trained in" and it worke dnumerous times for me including that cocaine addict friend of mine form the boxing gym I think I told you guys about whose half eskimo, he even on a high couldnt escape it.

ANyway as I start squeezing harder and barely into it all fo a sudden he turns or if I remember right uses hsi neck muscles to spring himself forward or something to that effect and gets loose in like less than a second (I never seen anyone egt loose form this in my life and I had one hard grip), than all of a sudden in another split moment he punches me with a hook right to my eye (or just below it) and before I know it Im on the ground and probably wa suncontious for a second, cause the next thing I remember was he was gone on the other side of the street I think with some other homioes of his waiting to see if anyone else will come toward them or me and mocking me to come toward him. I remember my eye feeling so badly that even when someone gave me ice and I held it the cut I had on it kept pouring some blood and I couldnt open it at all.

One guy told me I might need some stiches, and another came up I met earlier for a bit in the bar asked the other guy who I was trying to help if some other guy was around to which he said yes, than asked what did he do, and the guy I was with said njtohing. Than that guy said "nothing huh? thats exactly what he did back in pelican bay with me, nothing."

Anyway, later as I was ehading toward my car a cab driver pulled up enar me who took that guy and his friends and told me they were form some other town and how he hated what they did to me and how he thinks theyre trash, etc. and told me theyre waiting somwhere sitting near their car. I started walking toward them with wepaons on me and the cab driver pulled up enar me again and said that they elft and thats not them before asking what I was gonna do. I decided to leave since I felt pressure to do that by him and actually knew it was a dumb idea xsince I was already wounded seeying with one eye basically and they might have had weapons as well.

ANyway, this really shows how tough and agressive some ppl can be and how pure agression and strengh can overcome anything. I mean hwo often do u expect someone to get out of a full force perfectly executed rnc and hit you harder than even pro fighters or any trainer ever hit you? Thats why ma trianing imo is only for health and such and to be a street fighter you have to grow up that way. And plus Samoans are beasts, I heard another one put a few white americans in a hospital in this town by my mom who is a nurse, Im thinking it could have been the same guy.


   By Enforcer on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 06:22 am: Edit Post

I thought I could take a punch. I took numerous punches from a guy Id escribed on the bottom of this thread:
http://www.shenwu.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi

who I seeked out and punched and got in a fight with where he hcokey style held my shirt and kept hitting me over and voer with an voerhand right as I tried blockign and waiting till he tireded so I could counterattack than the crew came just when i satrted the counter attack and got a punch in finally. ANyway this guy in this post laid me out just like that with a single punch.


   By robert on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 01:05 pm: Edit Post

get a life;)


   By Willis on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 02:50 pm: Edit Post

Hey Enforcer, do you even READ people's responses to your posts? People are giving you advice. Seems you just mindlessly post things randomly with no responses to the responses you get. Can you read? Are you trying to write a story? WTF man. What is your purpose for telling us these wacked out encounters you are having?


   By Enforcer on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 04:22 pm: Edit Post

cause its exactly what bruce lee and all the greats of the past did to egt better, sparring and ring training is not the same thing at all man. An uintrained beast can kill you and ur trianing wont save you. Look at these africans for instance fighting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Z9dzMGzZM


how often do u see people in mma get out of guillotines like that? and how many of u can realistically say u could have knocked him out or dominated him? heck compare the vicousness to such fights to say the house party fight of the ultimate fighter where sucker punches did basically no damage cause those guys fogught fair/nice and without a huge rush of adrenaline and pain/damage nullifications through that. In order to become ebast and become a street presence u have to get out there and get ur feet wet and keep doing it over ansd over until you finally beocme good at it, the ring training actually probably made me worse cause I stopped going for groin hits (cause its not allowed or looked down upon in mma) and started relying ons tirking in those encounters rather than the two mvoes in my life I relied on previously for my fights which were the trip/takedown and kick to the gut.


   By Enforcer on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 04:24 pm: Edit Post

if I hadnt had trianing experienc eI probably would have beaten that guy outside that party where they damaged my car cause when he used hockey tactics on me holding my shirt and hitting me with the other arm and trying to wrap it on my face I would have clinched and tripped him than smashed hsi face with my shoe, but since Ive been trianing boxing exclusively for like a eyar now it didnt even come to my head to do anything but wait for him to egt tired or an opening and in close box him.


   By Bob #2 on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:30 pm: Edit Post

So you think playing hockey will improve your chances in life?

Bob#2


   By Troy on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:32 pm: Edit Post

Hasn't done much for Canadians, that's for sure!


   By robert on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:17 am: Edit Post

If you think that street fighting is a good way to train you are an idiot.

I train to improve my quality of life, improve my self, and to build character to avoid street fights as best as i can.

What are you training for? to learn how to hurt people better?

if you keep looking to the streets for fights, where there are no rules or limitations, you might actually run into someone who can seriously hurt you.

sounds to me like you only "pick fights" with other little punks like you. go pick a fight with a really dangerous person or a group of crips r bloods and tell me how it goes, and even if you win, they will probably shoot you anyway for making them look bad, there is no honor on the streets, if you beat someone up, there is nothing stopping them from retaliating in other ways.

PLEASE STOP POSTING, your retarded fight stories, no one here is encouraging you to go out on the streets and fight. And most of all, no one cares about you're stupid worthless escapades and winning a street fight means nothing unless it was a serious life and death situation.

you're just making yourself look like an ignorant fool.

martial arts are for self defense or sport. not for picking fights on the street and beating people up.

you are a true idiot. and you cant fight either. get over it.


   By Enforcer on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:57 am: Edit Post

there is no way to egt the feel of the streets and get good at it without doing it imo, I dont pick these fights they find me, I just dont back down like most ppl.


   By Enforcer on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 01:00 am: Edit Post

I treat these wounds I have on my face right now as abttle scars, I kinda am glad this happened I think it makes me look tougher and the experience gained is worth it.


   By Willis on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 02:04 am: Edit Post

Hey seems you think just like a convict! Say hello to Bubba for me once you make it to prison for me will ya?


   By Enforcer on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 06:07 am: Edit Post

like I said I am not ready and too soft/frail for this life. I dont have what it takes even if I tried many times to harden myself. I dont have what it takes to attack my enemies form behind or/and with weapons as quickly as possible before their friends join in or I egt caught, I dont have what it takes to hit someone continuously and without giving them a chance to attack back and continue hitting them once they fall, this is why they keep winning against me, and why they ended up messing my car up. I ahd many chances to get them this way and abcked out, I saw one of them alone with some hippy looking ppl who wouldnt fight for him (and only 2 of thema dn oen was a woman) ina cofee shopa nd when I walked by I didnt have what it takes to go in and attack quickly and efficiently. I have to haev an excuse or be really provoked to beocme violent, and even than I often give them a chance to fight bakc or try making it a fair fight and they end up using weapons or friends against me. This is why i cna never succed on the streets. The other thing is I dont have enough heart for it, when that smaoan hit me I wasnt knocked out instead of holding my eye all the time while he was taunting me form far away I should have fought him anyway, as long as I was contious I should not have backed off or gave up. Thats what it takes to excel at that life. Thats the diff between alpha males in prison and those who follow their orders.


   By Enforcer on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 06:42 am: Edit Post

bottom line is there is no such thing as a fair fight on the streets, if you trye making it a fair fight your opponent will take advantage of that. This is why you have to use weapons or whatever and dont let up until hes down and out. I just wanted tot est myself by fighting one on one fair fights but in all those tries almost never were they one on one or fair.


   By Jason M. Struck on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 07:53 am: Edit Post

what about the streets?


   By robert on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 06:41 pm: Edit Post

i know someone with the same "i'm not too frail for this world" mentality, you know, always have something to prove? He almost got killed when he was stabbed, assaulted in a fight where he got jumped by a few guys, one of them had a knife and i guess either he didnt know the severity of his actions or he just didnt value life. Anyway, he got stabbed, he almost died, and im not sure if he has changed his ways even today, even after almost dying, so i wonder if you are as hardheaded as this guy, if its gonna take something drastic to happen to you before you realize how stupid you were. im not wishing that on you, dont get me wrong, rather you are wishing it on yourself.

If there is one thing that you should add to your book of life from "the streets" learn respect, respect will keep you out of trouble 99.9 percent of the time, learn how to walk away, turn the other cheek, dont let your pride get the best of you and make you feel as if you have something to prove.

If you want to prove your worthiness in this world, do good things, get a job, go to school, you know, like normal people do. If you wanna do martial arts, thats fine, but there is a saying that goes like this "If you are a great fighter, but nothing in the world, then you are wasting your time practicing martial arts" which pretty much means that fighting is not everything.

If you want to be a great fighter and a great person, learn the way of "no fighting" or as musashi would say it, the way of "no sword".

havent you seen that bruce lee movie where the guy tries to fight him on the boat, and bruce points to somewhere on land saying that they will take a small boat there, so the guy gets off the boat and onto the paddle boat waiting for bruce to get in, and bruce just waves goodbye as he releases the boat? he didnt have to fight to win, he won by "not fighting". you should practice "not fighting" more, i think that is what you need if you want to improve your skill in martial arts.

only one who is humble, can learn.


   By robert on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 06:46 pm: Edit Post

turn the other cheek, walk away, wish him a good day, and if it still persists and they rush or attack you, only then would you be justified as someone who is not picking a fight, and just trying to defend themselves.

you, my violent friend, are picking fights with people. key word "PICKING" as if its some form of training method that you have.


   By robert on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 06:52 pm: Edit Post

wait wait wait,

i just read your post, did you really spring out of nowhere into a rear naked choke onto the back of a samoan? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

dude, you are CRAZY!!!!LMAO!!!!!! whats wrong with you? You totally have it coming to you man... please read my posts.lol


   By Enforcer on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:36 pm: Edit Post

so please tell me how you would take out a Samoan?


   By Bob #2 on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 10:11 pm: Edit Post

like this....
http://www.break.com/index/worlds-greatest-jump-roper.html