http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=1443002&pa ge=1&pc=146

read this from that thread:
"i agree with SOME of this.

no jabbing to decisions in the street.

also, no laying in someone's guard.

probably no submissions, unless it's standing.

basically, mma is totally worthless!"



basically all the training you guys do thinking ur so tough despite never actually getting into any street fights with thugs and criminals, isnt gonna work. Thats why I stopped training like I mentioned like a year ago. Gloves and rules is the biggest difference, no one wants to train bar eknuckle and with bruises.

If thats the case, then the all time street brawling champ kimbo slice, wouldve done better in his ufc career.

You just said mma is totally worthless... LoL

No cause ufc does not equal real fighting. And this guy on page two of that thread who started it said the guy who was knocking out bouncers left and right was a pacific islander. Those guys dont need any mma or anything and can whoop on anybody, I made another thread some months back of getting beat up by one after putting him in a perfect rear nakid choke that he twisted with pure strengh out of and hit me with one punch so hard literally blood form my bone started popping, in no gym ever was I ever hit by such power or felt it. Race matters, and for them they can beat anyone regardless of mma or what not. Plus it all goes out the window do to adrenaline and space crowedeness and things coming at you from various directions.

Like I said, I was beaten by people untrained while training in muay thai and boxing and such with gloves. The guy who made that thread had a similar experience, all those guys knocked out by the pacific islander in that thread he claims are trained or train. WHen it comes to certain people or races training doesnt mean shet. Look at that guy CT in that mtv show, in that situation no matter how much training that black guy would have been beat up or any of those guys CT beat up do to always being more crazier, determined, not having an off switch, and stronger/bigger than all of them. The whole house wasnt even able to stop him or hold him down. How would training have helped any of those guys he just bulldozes and ends up on top of esp since if you just put him in guard those other people would grab him off and hell be back at you in such situation?

Enforcer,

You are making the fundamental error of assuming because your martial arts don't work in a street fight, no ones martial arts will work in a street fight.

I have a lot of evidence that people with just basic BJJ or MMA skills will almost always come out ahead in real fights.

Your "perfect" rear naked choke may not have been as perfect as you thought. Maybe you should find a different place to train.

Hey, you should check out "Bully Beatdown."

I still think training is better when it is done with no gear and lighter contact. Cause you cant defend and cover up as much area or block the same with no gloves where hands are flying faster than with gloves. I think putting a facemask on or a face cage on and sparring with no gloves is better than big gloves and not much facial padding. I also think it is mostly mental, hence why if other people around you start saying things like "oh he's gonna kill you" or "just dont hurt him" it will influence the fight and you and his mind. If you start questioning yourself do to people around you putting doubt in you than it's game over.

I should rephrase what I said. Training did help me to be better than I was before I ever trained, but it never made me into anything special or a badass or anything and I was never able to beat more than one person up or even easily fight people bigger and stronger than me. People that have a natural ability to take hits unaffected and keep coming have something that training could never give you, that kind of mentality. most people in tough situations think of ways getting out of them and going back to your fmaily or comfortbale lives but these people only think of how to continue fighting and end up beating you no matter what.

al,so training makes some people worse. Those people like pacific islanders who are used to fighting a certain aggressive and beastly way will only get worse if they are trained to be more predictable and fight like a gentleman or whatever you want to call the art of science fighting. For example like the guy wrote in that post on mma.tv about a pacific islanders destroying multiple trained bouncers. how many even trained people do you know that would have the mentality to even udnertake such a mission much less succed? Sure it might make the average person better and better against other college graduate sissys who they might have just been one of or worse than earlier, but not against beasts like pacific islanders. The only people who might have a chance are those guys on the worlds strongest man show and only if they have the mentlaity to be ruthless. You cant beat someone who is extremly ruthless and vicious by being humane.

I saw Robert beat up a house full of Pacific islanders whislt wearing a blindfold and one hand in his pocket.

what would you do if you were the smaller black guy in this situation or say you were you but instead of the black guy it was you facing that other guy trying tp punk you like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-rQXlcGQfs

what woould you have done to not look like a bytch like that black guy? How would your training have helped in any way form him smothering you like that with the added weight of those people getting involved?

before I answer I need to know why he's wearing footy-pajammas in a bedroom with several guys wearing half buttoned over-alls?

cause it was a big sex orgy. Anyway, how would you deal with a monster twice ur size who has no off switch who can punch through walls and cant be stoppe dby multiple 200 pounders?

Willis, The blindfold was actually a ninja mask but one only worn by the most advanced ninjas, because eventually, people got smart and stated recognizing the eyes of ninjas, a technique developed where the eyes were also covered, and was only taught to the most skilled of disciples. I had my hand in my pocket because i was sending a text message to one of my psychopathic homegirls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb_HdYQooc4&feature=player_embedded