How come it's so hard to find anyone who will fight bare knuckle or spar?

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   By Enforcer on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:41 am: Edit Post

It seems there are no more real men left just a bunch of actors. Ive been trying to hone my bare kncukle boxing skills and elbow defenses but cant find anyone to do it with. The only guy who would is that Mexican guy I made that thread about fighting him bare knuckle who is really nutty and has a huge ego problem and baosts and brags about himself all the time and it is very uncomfortable being around him. It seems the only types of guys who would take their trianing to the next level are really cocky type guys who it is not pelasant being around, anybody so called 'nroma' wouldnt do it even if it was half contact. Heck even in boxing gyms and so called mma or martial art gyms people wouldnt do it. I want to be able to train my elbow spike hits to the ribs and such and with no crappy etiquete or rules but not going full out and being able to give up or quit anytime. Thats part of the reason I am such a sissy on the streets because I know I cant ever just walk away or quit but I will take on anybody in sparring.


   By Enforcer on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:32 am: Edit Post

Screw this martial art world we live in filled with mcdojos and fakes and wannabe roided up killas who are masking their fear and training mma gyms trying to convince themselves they got any skills at all. I live in a diff world just like Manson lives in a diff world high above the penetentary. I live in a world of ancient china of kung fu movies where I train for life not for some cage freak show or some fantasy that doesnt invovle bar ekncukle sparring and fighting/trainign with no rules. I live in a world where none of that stuff works to me or makes me as good as I want to become. I live in a world of kung fu movies and of training in a diff way than any of these gyms/dojos/etc. train.


   By Enforcer on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:34 am: Edit Post

I live in this world in my mind, because I train in my mind. I train with no gloves and with elbows and with knees and with techniques not safe to practice like neck twists form a guillotine. I dont live in the dojo world, my mind is above the dojo. It is above any gym, it is infinite.


   By Enforcer on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:35 am: Edit Post

When i say I live in a world of kung fu movies I dont mean the techniques, the techniques in many of thes emovies are unrealistic and lame. What I meant by this is I live in ancient china, in my mind and in the trianing I do it is like ancient china. it has nothing to do with cages or spectacles it is about survival and destruction.


   By robert on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:04 pm: Edit Post

I will fight you bare knuckle, no problem, you're that little kid in that boxing video right?. Actually, you can go bare knuckle, and i will use gloves.



   By Willis on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:30 pm: Edit Post

Meat him in the park. Uh, I mean Meet him in the park. That dark, secluded park where Jim and Tai chi bob and those guys with the little rainbow patches on their jackets/hats/hand bags like to go to work out and do all kinds of cool activities and stuff.


   By Bob #2 on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:27 pm: Edit Post

if you train in your mind, then you are used to fighting in small, dark places.


   By Tai Chi BOB on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 12:03 am: Edit Post

what cha' takin' bout Willis?


   By robert on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 05:43 pm: Edit Post

Watch out tcb, that guy sues...


   By Willis on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:15 pm: Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrF4-DdqVqs


   By robert on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 12:48 am: Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHrqkefrm50


   By Tai Chi BOB on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 02:03 am: Edit Post

like wow Willis
you've been secretly filming my Tai Chi classes at the trailer park and infusing them with a slightly erotic energy that has got me all euphoric. I don't know what the subliminal message was but I am aroused with an overwhelming urge to go to the park.....


   By Enforcer on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 08:30 am: Edit Post

Im not into any of that sport, mouthguard and glove shet. Why is it 90% of ppl ar einto that shet now? I would much rather learn how to effectively torture someone to give up information and how to effectively floor someone by grabbing them by their ear from behind or how to effectively grab someone over a counter toward me and things I am much more likely to use in real life than some fair sport fight style fight. The problem is only special forces and gangsters know how to do the stuff I wanna learn everyone else is living in the sport fighting dreamworld. I want to be able to drag someone in a car than quickly knoick them unconcious tie them up and be able to get info off them ins econds. Tahts much more useful skill imo than sport fighting with mouthguards.


   By robert on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:12 am: Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oGx2dImE8&feature=player_embedded


   By Enforcer on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:21 am: Edit Post

Maybe Ill just start learning from paul Vunak or his videos, but even with that I doubt they train as real as it would take to produce a pure killer. Which is what I want to be, I want to be as tough as gangster hitmen or cia agents.


   By Willis on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 03:08 pm: Edit Post

Become a Mortician then you can practice your death skills on real corpses!


   By Enforcer on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 08:19 pm: Edit Post

I dont want to learn death skills, I want to know how to maim and put people at my mercy as well as deal with situations like throwing bigger people over a table inf ront of you or how to effectively smash their head on a table while theyre sitting, etc. things that mafia people and the like have to deal with daily to keep their reps.


   By Willis on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 08:59 pm: Edit Post

Sambo or Judo should do the trick. I like Sambo more. Hey you should go train with Tim. He's awesome.


   By robert on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 01:58 am: Edit Post

Haha enforcer, you're such a pathetic noob. Go get castrated you good for nothing piece of . I can effectively smash peoples heads on tables while maiming them and throwing them at the same time...


   By Shane on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 10:39 pm: Edit Post

this guys probably wouldn't mind....

http://www.break.com/index/kyle-maynard-first-amputee-mma-fighter.html

I respect the effort, but um.... what did he think would happen?

Shane


   By robert on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 07:45 pm: Edit Post

Oh Gawd, I cant believe you had the nerve to post that. HAHAH!

You IZ crazy.


   By Tim on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 09:11 pm: Edit Post

"I respect the effort, but um.... what did he think would happen? "

Well, if Kyle had managed to take the guy down, probably this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5R75GGUovg


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 03:30 am: Edit Post

I just want to be tough and want to be somebody or at least respected. I cant gain respect in the streets simply by practicing ma and being epaceful, if no one sees me intimidate ppl or beat people they will think Im as good at fighting as I look and I dont look too intimidating. In fact I doubt I could intimidate a child very well. I always ahve inhibitions form putting my hands on plp phsyically and only use my words in confrontations so thats one thing I have to overcome. MA wont teach that, in general they wont teach an effective lock or ear twist or whatever is needed for effective intimidations. Or how to grab the right part of the back of the head to slam into a table for disrespect. I just want to be tough and respected. Its alot easier fighting someone than effectively intimidating them or restraining them without having to throw a single punch.


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 03:42 am: Edit Post

watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMVzQsTmZY

I want to be like the bad woman who puts her finger son pressure points and makes people immobile the mafia use to get info and can floor someone by hitting them super hard in the ribs form behind. This is the kind of mentlaity you need to be respected on the streets and the kind of skill.


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 03:51 am: Edit Post

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362225/board/thread/120353789?d=120405081&p=1#12040 5081

pressure point knowledge is key.


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 04:00 am: Edit Post

the reason I want those skills and not straight up sport style or fair street brawling (want that too but not close to as badly) is because I always ask myself questions like "what if someone in my fmaily was raped or what if my future girlfriend tells me something like her dad mollests her" I want to be able to torture and inflict pain on such people, I want to be able to knock on their door and within a split second grab them by their ear and pull them to my car without questioning techniques or skills I dont posess to do this. Those skills are a lot more important than a better way of throwing punches at someone or takedowns (in those situations I want to be able to deal with). I want to be able to wlak into a crowded room and be so vicious adn intimidating I dont even have to deal with multiple opponents.


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 04:03 am: Edit Post

I always ask myself those questions and with my level of training and with any sport training that doesnt even deal with pressure points, or how to pull people outside/inside form doorways, how to disable knives, etc.

I mean I used to think sport fighting has answers for all that as well like you guys. And I find out a thai clinch wont work at all form pulling someone in front of you across a desk or table due to the grip loosening and slipping off cause the arms or elbows wont support their weight when lifted off the ground. I experimented with much of these skills and most of the time they dont work. Thats just oen example.


   By Enforcer on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 04:07 am: Edit Post

And I dont know for sure if I can slam someones ehad on a table cause I never had a chance to train it. SOmeone was disrespecting my culture, heritage and what makes me unique at a party recently and I used both my hands to push hsi head down at the tip from behind and it was a lot harder than any movie like Heat (where Deniro does it in a split second with one hand). WHen they resist it took a lot of strengh with both arms and I thought I could have pulled it all the way down but due to inhibitions and not wanting to start a real fight I didnt push down all the way to know for sure. And later wondered if I could have.


   By robert on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 01:48 pm: Edit Post

this guy probably wouldn't mind....

http://www.break.com/index/kyle-maynard-first-amputee-mma-fighter.html

I respect the effort, but um.... what did he think would happen?

Shane

Well, if Kyle had managed to take the guy down, probably this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5R75GGUovg


I didnt really want to watch the fight, but i just did. The non handicapped guy really ran around the ring like a scared kitty, what a P***Y


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