Shanxi and Hobei Five Elements

Tim's Discussion Board: Xing Yi Quan: Shanxi and Hobei Five Elements
   By SleepyDragon (Unregistered Guest) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:42 am: Edit Post

Hello. I recently viewed an instructional on Shanxi Xing Yi. I noticed the persons hand would continue moving after his foot landed. For example, when he did Pi Chuan and his foot landed his hand was still stiking outward. Is this correct for Shanxi style? I study Hobei style from Chen Pan Ling and YWChang lineage and thats a big no no for us. I was just curious what everyones take on this would be.


   By Kenneth Sohl on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:37 pm: Edit Post

Perhaps this particular person wasn't any good?


   By Michael Andre Babin on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 08:28 am: Edit Post

If the hand stops moving forward before the weight of the body arrives, the technique would be less effective; but, it is also true that if the weight and foot arrives too much after the hand that the technique will also have less potential power.

On the video in question, (leaving aside the issue of the the technical requirments of that style of hsing-i) if the hand keeps moving only momentarily after the foot arrives than you can keep in mind the analogy of a log being thrown onto a beach by the action of a wave. The wood being moved by the water does not stop exactly at the moment that the wave crests on the sand of the beach. But being hit by that piece of debris will certainly make an impression on you. ;-}


   By Tim on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:33 pm: Edit Post

Most of the Shanxi styles advocate generating force in a wave-like (as Michael pointed out) or whip-like manner.

If you want to crack a whip, the handle (center) has to stop moving to transfer the momentum out of the tip of the whip (hand).


   By SleepyDragon (Unregistered Guest) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Michael and Tim. Your statements are sound. It is interesting to hear other views. I appreciate your views...


   By William on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 11:47 am: Edit Post

Some videos I came across on Shanxi XYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6koNA4CLu0&NR=1

Cheers,


   By Miles Hayton-Robinson on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 08:52 pm: Edit Post

How does dai xinyi compare to xingyiquan, do you think?


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