Modifying the elements

Tim's Discussion Board: Xing Yi Quan: Modifying the elements

   By Timothy on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:28 pm: Edit Post

Aww dude, I just reread one of your posts and missed this. You said I don't know anything about hsing I quan. Not true. I took a bunch of classes in college. The only thing we did was forms. I know others who study hsing I and the bulk of their training is forms with technique drilling. No sparring. Their teacher was talking about how you snap someone's neck with a certain move out of a form. He was adamant about it working but... I doubt he has snapped anyone's neck or he'd be in jail.

I considered taking a hsing I course until I read the description. We would be learning nei gong, tu na, 5 elements, 12 animals, and the two man sets. No word about fighting at all. Maybe I'm just jaded by the hsing I I see being offered around me.

Calling modern day hsing I a peace time art isn't a diss per say. It's the truth. It's similar to how the samurai arts split into different sport schools during the Meiji era.


   By Timothy on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:31 pm: Edit Post

I'll finish with this. A kickboxer or a wrestler can definitely do hsing I...but a hsing I person can't necessarily do kickboxing or wrestling.


I sparred with a bjj guy recently. I was nervous...but I'll talk about that in the grappling section.


   By robert on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:33 pm: Edit Post

Just because you dont know how to use xing yi in a live situation, you assume that i cant? I dont understand...

Have you even had an opportunity to utilize your so called xing yi knowledge, live?

If you havent, say no more, you know nothing.. but forms..

last word


   By Timothy on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:46 pm: Edit Post

I wasn't saying anything about you. I was talking generally. Wtf is wrong with you?

Didn't you just tell me your mother art was judo and you did wrestling before going to hsing I? Since you got offended so easily is it safe to assume you didn't spend much time in judo?

Or maybe you meant to say your mother studied judo and your father was a wrestler so genetically you're a fighter? Why would you assume I was talking about you if you actually did study judo and wrestling? Something's fishy about your story.


   By Timothy on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:49 pm: Edit Post

And yes I'll defend my comment. If a person has done the hsing I I have experienced then he cannot wrestle as well as a wrestler or throw as well as a Shuai jiao guy. Actually doing throws is totally different than doing forms and picturing yourself throwing someone. Anyone with a brain knows this.


   By Bob #2 on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 03:00 pm: Edit Post

Behold the silent treatment.


   By Timothy on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 04:59 pm: Edit Post

That means I won!

We're you enjoying the show? Bob?


   By robert on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 06:39 pm: Edit Post

Yeah bro, you won, congratulations, heres your championship belt, it reads "TROLL CHAMP/Internet Warrior 2012"



"The difference between Shuai jiao drills and most other forms is that you do the throws the same exact way as you do the form."

"Actually doing throws is totally different than doing forms and picturing yourself throwing someone"

"actually, im just a dumb little twerp trying to sound cool on an internet forum"

You are constantly changing your story, contradicting yourself, constantly changing and abandoning arguments, you really are showing your lack of knowledge...

Not trying to brag, but let me tell you a brief story of my life..

I pretty much learned to fight out of necessity.. In my neighborhood, This is where i grew up.

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/my-neighborhood---paradise-hills/2008/aug/ 28/paradise-hills---my-neighborhood/

And guess what, I lived on the corner of paradise valley and deep dell road. Each year, we would have at least 8 deaths in our area related to gang violence, and countless more victims of violent assult, robbery, and even rape.

We have found babies in the dumpster, I have seen people lying on the sidewalk DYING, only to think they were just passed out drunk. I have had FBI agents come to my door, questioning me.

My ex girlfriends parents used to refer to me as "the cat" Because my gf's would sneak me into their room at night, and i would escape by jumping out of the 2 story window, without a sound.

When i was in Juvy, we would do sets of 300 pushups every day. (totally badass and awesome right?) Yeah, i went in for beating up my stepdad.


I received praise from all of my judo instructors, and was even scolded for not devoting more time to the art.

I studied tai chi and xing yi quan while i was studying boxing, so i had ample opportunity to practice my xing yi techniques "live" so i know i can use it in fight, no question in my mind. I also have a few friends who are just as skilled as me or better, who i would practice with and spar with all the time.

And hey, xing yi is a striking/throwing art. (insert "but but i know but.... here)

I have been doing judo since 2002, and frequently spar with blackbelts, regional, and world class competitors, and throw them often, even blackbelts that outweigh me by 50 60 lbs.

I have studied with some of the best jiu jitsu teachers in san diego.

And I have NEVER lost a real fight.

So please, speak for yourself. Just because YOU suck at xing yi, doesnt mean everyone in "general" does, and cannot use it in a fight.


I can use xing yi in combat, i can use judo in combat, i can box, i can kick, and i can grapple.

I dont get nervous when i spar Bjj players, i have sparred PLENTY..

And, i can punch steel. Can you? Watch my video on "training with steel" you might learn something. By all means, try it.. You dont need YEARS of conditioning and training.. And of course, I dont have YEARS of conditioning and training, I havent been studying martial arts since the age of 5 *sarcasm... I can just punch steel because i was born awesome... I have even been in a fight where i broke my attackers wrist just by punching it as it came at me, of course i wasnt aiming for it, but my fist hit his wrist, and his wrist snapped. He ran away in pain.. as most of my opponents.. *que awesome music

Thats how tough I am bro..

I can use xing yi in a fight, and im pretty sure Tim can too, as well as his students. So STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And guess what, my fighting experience is a walk in the park compared to some practitioners out there, and if i can use xing yi in a combat situation, im absolutely sure that others can too..

So Eff off troll..


   By robert on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 07:13 pm: Edit Post

So yeah, now that you know how awesome i am, and you know that i went to juvy for beating up my stepdad (he attacked me first, were friends now, actually he is deceased, R.i.p.)

You can take you iphone using behind back to your friends house to learn more xing yi so you can be AWESOME LIKE MEEEEEEEEE!

I was a nerdy little asian kid, that grew up in a tough neighboorhood, and it pretty much turned me into wood.

I bet youre just some little fat kid with glasses..

Yes, my life is pathetic, i have nothing better to do than argue with kids on the internet...

Im 27 yrs old Fml...


   By Timothy on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:23 pm: Edit Post

I'm 30 and have a bachelors and a Masters degree so I'm older and smarter than you. While you were being treated like a criminal in juvy I was being a good kid, working, studying, and paying taxes to support people like you.

Your life story is touching. You grew up in the ghetto and had to fight. Great. I've heard this story 16 thousand times in 16 thousand different rap songs. You should become a rapper so you can cry about it all. I don't give a flying fuk about your bullshit story even of it is true.

We're talking about skills here. Learning a fighting art


   By Timothy on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:26 pm: Edit Post

Learning a real fighting art like judo or Shuai Jiao and then going to a style like hsing I is the way to go. That's the opinion I'm trying to get across. Hsing I itself, as I have seen it, cannot teach people to fight. Your experience is obviously different.


Describe your hsing I class if you don't mind, Robert.


   By Timothy on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:42 pm: Edit Post

I'm a troll because I diagree with you. I love the logic.

We have 50 cent, Eminem, and Robert. When does your album come out?

You o throw world class judo people...that outweigh you by 50 or 60 pounds? And you don't just throw them occasionally...you throw them often. Did I read that right. This statement smells like bullshit. The way you describe your superman skills you should be making millions as a professional fighter, or body guard, or judoka tournament champ. Instead you put up rambling videos and have a video of yourself doing forms. You are full of .


   By Timothy on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:51 pm: Edit Post

Unless you're like Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting. He was a math genius that took a job as a janitor. You must be a martial arts talent but you're just choosing to stay in the shadows. You sound like every other deadly warrior...deadly I his own mind.

You must have been sparring with the fat kids judo class which is how you're actually throwing all these world class competitors that outweigh you by so much.

GSP trains every day(he recently hurt his knee ab had surgery). He was hesitant to move up to middleweight(180 lbs) class from welter weight(170 lbs) to challenge Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva outweighs him. GSP is a world class fighter and he's nervous about fighting a bigger guy. And yet you throw world class judo guys that outweigh you. Stop mixing pills and alcohol because it's affecting your logic.


   By rangga jones on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:47 am: Edit Post

Now now children...


   By rangga jones on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:54 am: Edit Post

Are obscene words automatically censored, like and ?


   By robert on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 03:48 am: Edit Post

Hi troll,

Thanks for providing me with entertainment.

In my xing yi class, we would meditate for an hour before class. After that, we would wrap our hands with tarred linen, and recite mudras together. Then we would commence battle.

The prison planet i was sent to was called basha-ra. It was tough there. We had to scrape moss from the sewage system just to survive.

I remember one day, a buddy of mine went crazy and cooked his own leg. I ate some.




   By robert on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 05:14 am: Edit Post

Timothy, I made this just for you buddy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kne_5n1Ff4o&list=UUhc4DxvU7pWfQGplENTjizQ&index=1 &feature=plcp


   By Timothy on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 07:32 am: Edit Post

All kidding and bs aside...anyone with any Wrestlkng experience knows you aren't throwing world class judo players who outweigh you by 50-60lbs ALL THE TIME. This was an exaggeration or an outright lie unless these judo guys are children or really old. You might throw them sometimes. Maybe you meant you throw judo newbs or hsing I guys who claim to be good at wrestling.

Thanks for the video, Matt Damon. I was waiting for it. I had A whole response going line by like of your idea but I changed it up cause in getting bored. The video was funny.

Sorry for cursing in the Shen Wu board.


   By Jake Burroughs on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 10:54 am: Edit Post

Silly bitches, CMA are for kids! BJJ is where the men are!


   By Timothy on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:00 pm: Edit Post

BJJ is where men roll around pretending to make love with each other.


   By rangga jones on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 07:19 pm: Edit Post

Does it censor obscenities in other languages? Lavate ese culo


   By Timothy on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:28 am: Edit Post

I was only kidding about the bjj comment.


   By Jake Burroughs on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:39 am: Edit Post

Only gay if you look them in the eyes brother!


   By Timothy on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 12:21 pm: Edit Post

Or of you're staring at his crotch


   By Jake Burroughs on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 05:59 pm: Edit Post

No, no silly.... you have it backwards... if his crotch stares back AT YOU!!!


   By robert on Sunday, February 26, 2012 - 07:10 pm: Edit Post

Dont you know what BJJ really stands for?

"Blow Job Jutsu"

*runs


   By robert on Sunday, February 26, 2012 - 08:14 pm: Edit Post

Timothy, youre annoying, i feel sorry for your surroundings.


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