Xing yi and wing chun

Tim's Discussion Board: Xing Yi Quan: Xing yi and wing chun
   By guest (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 12:39 am: Edit Post

Do these two have anything in common or similarities? I have seen on other forums were some people mention the two in terms of techniques and movement.


   By Richard Shepard on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 11:04 am: Edit Post

There are some similarities:
Simplicity/Efficiency of Movement
Centerline theory
Preference for percussive hand strikes
The footwork is quite similar

When wing chun is taught well, there is a good whole body power developed, but it is still a different power development then the internal arts.

I became interested in the internal arts of Xingyi and Taiji because I was looking for a "better wing chun"


   By Bob #2 on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 09:25 pm: Edit Post

guest,

The average human has one head, one torso, two hands and two feet- so all martial arts have comminalities as they are all simply methods of movement of the afore mentioned body bits.

That being said, it is my invaluable opinion that most good Xing Yi practioners spend the majority of their time developing themselves into dangerous fighters. Whereas most good Wing Chung prationers spend the majority of their time trying to create and validate comparisons with Xing Yi.

Next.
Bob#2


   By Richard Shepard on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 12:00 pm: Edit Post

It would be nice if Bob #2 stayed asleep 24hrs a day.

Since both Xingyi and WingChun are first and foremost concerned with the destruction of a single opponent in the shortest amount of time, it is quite natural that they have a number of similarities.

Thanks,
Richard


   By Bob #2 on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 01:27 pm: Edit Post

Dick,

On your first point, I argree- successful hibernation is a goal of mine.

Please list several martial arts which are first and foremost concerned with taking the longest amount of time to defeat a single opponent to help illustrate your second point.

You're welcome,
Bob #2


   By Rich on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 12:43 am: Edit Post

Xing Yi is a more powerful system and Wing Chun is more a rapid fire system, not saying WC is not a very powerful system... it is.

However, the first move you learn in Xing Yi is Pi Chuan and it is very powerful and forceful.

The first move you master in wing chun is chain punching, which is an awesome idea, but lacks a one punch kill theory.

I have been practicing WC for the last 12 years and I still found my way to Xing YI.


   By Michael Andre Babin on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 09:10 am: Edit Post

Some martial arts are better constructed then others for transmitting their potential skills; some martial artists can make a bad martial art look good; some martial artists can make a good martial art look bad.

If your long-term training only makes you a better fighter and not a better human being that's sort-of sad; if your training doesn't give you the skills that you would need against a committed and experienced attacker that's also more-than-a-little sad.

In the end, real skill is a long journey for most and it's easy to take side-trips that become dead-ends.. It's also true that we sometimes learn the most from what seem at first from our mistakes in training ... and in life.


   By omar mohamed on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 02:41 pm: Edit Post

hallo guys
i do not know xing yi too much but when sparring with a xing yi man i notice that his lake of centerline protection and overcomitting(circling hand movement)and i think it lose simplicity
agressive deffence in wing tsun proved to be great and uses body elastic power by crowding effect(pressure)
wing tsun is agressive art
empty your cup.....
thanks


   By Enforcer on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 04:10 pm: Edit Post

"That being said, it is my invaluable opinion that most good Xing Yi practioners spend the majority of their time developing themselves into dangerous fighters."

than why are there no clips of them on youtube beating wing chun or any other styles?


   By Jake Burroughs on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 04:24 pm: Edit Post

Because fighters beat fighters, not styles.
Jake


   By robert on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:58 pm: Edit Post

finding good fighters is pretty rare, finding good internal martial arts fighters is even more rare.


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