Hi

I just wonder what the differnce are between this two and if anyone had any good book - dvd- suggestions on Xing Yi quan training

Tobias

Plum Publications actually has DVDs on both Xingyi and Yiquan.

Hebei Xingyi with Di Guo-Yong
http://www.plumpub.com/sales/dvd/dvdcoll_xydiguo.htm

Yiquan with Wang Yong Xiang
http://www.plumpub.com/sales/dvd/dvdcoll_yiquqan.htm

Thanks Richard

Does Yi Quan come from Xing Yi Quan or is it totally different arts?

any info would be appriciated

Tobias

Tobias,

The founder of Yiquan, Wang Xiangzhai's primary style of martial art was Xingyiquan. Based on his research into the "essence" of Chinese martial arts in general, and with his foundation in Xingyiquan, he created Yiquan.

There are those that consider Yiquan to be a subsystem of Xingyiquan, the majority recognize the art as a separate style.

Exactly. Yiquan is very Xingyi-ish, but it is not Xingyi.

Thanks for info Tim

Hi Tobias

Wang Xiangzhai was very good at Xingyiquan having been trained by the famous legendary master Gou Yunshen and other notable masters, the current Yiquan lineage ends with head of schoold Master Yao Chenguang.

Many consider Yiquan to be the "Natural School" of Xingyiquan as the postures are originate from Xingyiquan but less should I say defined. Yiquan borrows what Wang considered effective from the other schools he studied in. It also drops fixed routines i.e. forms like in Mixture of the Moves long form etc. However it has its own shortened routines, which are repetitive a bit like Hsingi's 5 elements. Oh yea expect to do a lot of standing post.

I would recomend the book of Master Yao's which you can get from his website www.yiquan.com , mine took about a fortnight to get to me in the UK. It is a very good book. I personally feel Yiquan & Hsingyiquan are complementary in training and they can both help to understand each art better.

Kind Regards

Jay

Thank you very much for the info Jay




Best Regards

Tobias

Yiquan (and its principles) seems to be the mechanics behind Xingyiquan and many 'internal' methods. If you take away the yiquan concepts, you just have form and form itself yield nothing but flowery performance art.

We can also see that if you keep the yiquan principles with its training, it can supplement any art no matter what you call it. Call the nwe art Dungfu, practice any sequence of form but have yiquan as training elelment and you are still 'tres formidable'.

Standing may seem dull but its hard work (gong)