San Ti Shi - Eyes work

Tim's Discussion Board: Xing Yi Quan: San Ti Shi - Eyes work
   By MS on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 06:12 pm: Edit Post

Hi,
I was wondering if anybody could help about some details about the way you should stare(look) in San Ti Shi?

1 - Do you stare at your index finger or far beyond? or both?

2 - I came across BKF method through is book on IMA. Did anybody as ever used his method and can he describe it in details? I find confusing the fact that you could stare at your index finger and at The same time focus on a distante point.

Thanks in advance.


   By alienpig on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:24 am: Edit Post

neither,

stare through the tigers mouth,(between thumb and index finger) regard it as something like a "gun sight" - kinda aim,,,, then shoot.


   By Matthew on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 07:31 pm: Edit Post

MS,

with the method I was taught, you should have the middle finger between your eyebrows.


   By robert on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 08:37 am: Edit Post

im not sure, but i think that bk guy teaches a mixture of truth and crap, i mean, im not a closed minded person, but why would you want to focus on your finger? when you fight your not gonna focus on your finger...


   By robert on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 08:39 am: Edit Post

im not sure, but i think that bk guy teaches a mixture of truth and crap, i mean, im not a closed minded person, but why would you want to focus on your finger? when you fight your not gonna focus on your finger... dont you think thats kind of, um.. whats the word... stupid? wouldnt you want to be more focused on the guy thats in front of you trying to kick you punch you and grab you? hmm.. violent guy in front of me what should i do... hey, i need to cut my fingernails!


   By Matthew on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 08:16 pm: Edit Post

robert,

I was also told to picture pushing into a man's treachia with my middle finger. Sorry I neglected to put this in my first post. During a fight, and in all two-person activities, I was told to watch the centerline, so that I would be able to see his movements better, and not be tricked, or distracted.


   By Jess O'Brien on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 06:44 pm: Edit Post

When I learned San Ti from Kumar, there was a lot more to it than looking at your finger. He taught us to change the gaze in concordance with the breathing. There was also a lot of emphasis on relaxing the eyes and viewing through the periphery. Tyring to create a calm, even, relaxed stability in focus and breathing. There were also teachings about energy and feeling different parts of the body. Also about finding habitual tension and releasing it. And many other aspects. He is a very "Chi" oriented guy, so if you like that kind of thing you'd really like what he does.

When it comes to fighting with Xing Yi he never said to stand there looking at your finger. Not sure where you got that idea, but I don't think anyone teaches that way. Xing Yi people are usually a little bit more practical than that.

-JO


   By Matthew on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 12:17 am: Edit Post

Jess O'Brien,

thank you for your constructive critsism. I think I didn't explain very well(I thought I did in my second post). When doing the San Ti, I look beyond the tip of my middle finger, picturing lightly pushing into a man's treachia(that soft spot in your throat). I didn't exactly say look "at," my middle finger. I said place it where it's in-between my eyebrows. I'm not sure how pushing into someone's treachia isn't practical? Please explain?

In my second post, I said that I look into the center of a man, not stand there looking at my finger.


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