You must of been trained by Walter Michalowski. Give me your name and I'll ask him about you. Walter is a great Muay Thai coach. If he kicked you or anyone else one time in the leg....well it wouldn't be pretty.

Also, most judo schools are no different than MMA schools in that respect. You are working daily with guys bigger and smaller than you. You should know that, unless your judo school was so big that they had enough people. Where did you train Judo in Pasadena?

Sumo in Judo?

I never said he isnt great. He is. I jsut said it is common among muay thai people to be a bit boastful with regards to mt techniques.

"Also, most judo schools are no different than MMA schools in that respect. You are working daily with guys bigger and smaller than you. You should know that, unless your judo school was so big that they had enough people. Where did you train Judo in Pasadena?

Sumo in Judo?"

I trained in Claremont. It was like one of the biggest Judo places in Cali if I rememebr right and they trained at the community center.

And please dont ask about me or bring me into discussion with Walter, I really like him and he likes me so please dont tell him something like Im talking crap about him. All I am doing is talking about general mma beliefs and such nothing against him at all or muay thai. I just think to be able to street fight well you have to have a combination of ma training (like mt for example) and experience in various street fights against people of various sizes and abilities. I just dont think you can be real good at it unless you have a natural instinct and talent with just training and no actual fight experience, just like I dont think you can be a good street fighter without any training and relying solely on your one or two techniques you elarned through experience of going ape shet. I mean there is just a lot more fear in a street fight so you wont try many things that you would in sparring for exmaple like when i fought the big fat gay guy I almost didnt do anything in the clinch and went blank only trying to get away due to the fear of him outweighing me by so much and thus not knowing what would happen once he actually took me to the ground or simply held me in the hockey over the head sweatshirt thing.

No problem.

"I mean even in sport ma they always spar with ppl their own weight and have weight classes and dont fight to overcome bigger people."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJ2T023M4I

Great video!

And all the Absolute grappling events.

that fight looked fake or at least a set up by big money promoters. he fell on top of him willingly. That wouldnt work on the street imo.

???

That was a joke? Right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtk91BWK9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeOMih5ceM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTAdM9tLWc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQqmrdOSdv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqMSZbHgcA&feature=related

Joking aside. Technique is very important.

This wouldn't happen in the streets, that could happen in the streets...stay off the freakin streets...a gun would stop all of it!!

I'd rather judge my skill based upon my abilities against a trained athlete rather than a drug fat thug.

Yes, in the streets anything can happen. What's the best way to defend against that? Get a good education, a good job, move to a good place and good friends. Still doesn't guarantee anything, but decreases the chances of stupid violence.

Get a good education, read a book, improve your life, join a real gym for a few years(not days)try to bring something to the forum that improves life, training regiments, technical or tactical questions....and please get counseling.

All I am doing is speaking from my experience, my for other people it works but for me it hasnt really. but maybe Im just not made for fighting or something. Ive been in numerous street fights over the years with untrained people and I wasnt able to knock any one of them out or end the fight with a strike, I even hit a guy square on hsi chin (the black guy who jumped me with his friends and whose group threw windows at my car as I drove by and tried to jump me on multiple occasions) and he still stood. I hit this other kid so many times in the face with an elbow (part of the same gang this kid was white though) that my elbow literally hurt afterward I hit him so hard. he fell to the ground and it took him less than a second to get right back up like a spring board. I got hit by a big samoan guy so hard when I put him in a rear naked choke for about to atatck a friend, that I fell and literally blood was gushing out of a cut and everyone thought Im gonna need stiches. From an untrained Samoan brute. ALthough i got up fairly quickly the who,le fight was out of me by than and I knew I lost.

As you can see none of this stuff ever really helped me. I also got pwned by a homeless girl who tried rubbing me with her dirty hands and crap and following me around to give her money and crap and I for a sec put my hands on her throat and backed off actually choking her. but she went ape shet and I couldnt hit a girl so i tried restraining her and I wasnt even able to grab a single arm and when I shoved her back she didnt even fall just thrust forward. And when I started walking away she hit me in my back and I wasnt even able to sense or predict that and took it full force on my back and felt like a fish out of water not being able to restrian her in any way. None of that joint lock or arm bar crap worked. I kept trying to grab the arm but it was always moving too fast to grab or out of range.

on top of that as my recent story of fighting that fat gay coke dealer says, I hit a guy full force in the face that he even thought I had a metal object yet he still stood. Heck I wasnt even able to land a single hit after he stopped being offensive and he was able to move and deflect my hits which was a classic jab and hook while having his hands at his waiste (so did I as I wlaked toward him).

Ive seen people kicked in the balls and keep fighting with no effect, heck I kept fighting after gatting side kicked in the balls before fully. Although i did floor that guy with a single switch kick to the body as he charged he recovered in about 10 seconds and continued fighting.

Idea!

Become an athlete.

Train.

Sleep.

Eat healthy.

Drink healthy.

Study.

And train some more.

I promise you you'll begin to become surrounded by like minded people...healthy people(mentally, emotionally and physically)

and you be too tired to be bothered with an environment that corrupts your soul, as well as, too smart to waste your athletism on people you know you can beat up.

You'll be become a real warrior by facing your fears and battled people better than you every day in the gym until you become better than them.

You spent your time studying technique videos to improve your skills instead of posting videos and stories on forums like this in which people find no benefit to their personal mastery.

You'll find you have nothing to prove to negative people for you'll know who you really are.

You have a good heart. I can see it woven between your "street" stories of gangs, revenge, and "black guys".

Don't be afraid to take the chance and change your thinking even if you can't change your environment just now.

And then your only "quest of revenge" will be born from the spanking you took from a BJJ blackbelt, Judo champion or kickboxing or MMA coach.

That type of revenge makes you a better athlete, healthier man and a man who has confronted his real fears...himself.

Follow your heart.

If you can't afford a good school now, do what you can on your own until then.

You seem to be more of a leader than a follower. Grab a friend and work on your striking and grappling technical form and conditioning programs you can find on the web.

You can help guide someone that might be as lonely or lost as you and you guys can grow together.

Don't be afraid to change. It's not too late.

ok thanks for the advice. Thing is all my life ever since I came to the U.S. I had to deal with shet. I moved a lot when I was younger and constantly was the new kid/guy on the block without a backup. Didnt help i have a funny first name and was always pretty small for my age growing up. I still have a weak mind and for instance can't refuse things or say no to things often that I dont really feel like doing just to please people. To tell the truth I think being a fighter or warrior is almsot all about mentality. If you have a weak mentality no matter how big, or skilled, or whatever you are it wont really matter.

Most of the times in my life I was actually beaten without a fight. I remember when i went back home the summer before last and went on this field trip and there was this ex drug addicted 18 yr old guy there who took my cousins beer at one point (he knew us and we talked with him there and stuff) kind of jokingly and ran outside the bus we were on at a bus stop with it and started drinking the cracked beer. I asked if I could have some and he wouldnt give it to me, and just extended his arm and kept drinking it. I dint even know how to react and kind of fell apart mentally because I wasnt ready to go through an actual fight there in front of all those people and at the same time trying to grab it and his arm I felt would make me look silly so I just stood there and he eventually gave me the last sip. He claimed it's not my beer bnut my cousins but didnt mention the fact she didnt give him permission to take it whether ti spilled or not. In HS I had many similar experiences. One guy stood up in front of the whole class who was constantly making fun of me with another guy and said what while extending his arms (oh and he did this after I had had enough and stood up first). I later ended up getting real drunk to get some nerves and fought him.

Enforcer, take Backarcher's advice, it is really sound and honest.

I too experienced being bullied when I was younger, face the same fears, whished to take revenge on those who picked on me, but was able to move away from escalating situations that could have brought way more trouble. Looking back I realized that was the best choice, bullies grow tired when they cant get what they want and will leave.

The thing is that if you go to mma tv or some other mma forums they are constantly filled with people who post stories about how they beat people up. So how can you say msot mma people avoid trouble and dont get in fgihts with regular people but only train? Heck watch some of those ultimate fighter shows, theya re like the most egoistical people ever. Constantly saying how theyre the best and being agressive toward one another like that blond guy in the latest season. He called another guy a bytch and tried to get him to fight him inside the house.

Heck on one episode if I remember right it was the assistant coach of BJ Penn who was the bjj/grappling coach roughed aorund another guy who was trianing under him in training and tried embarassing him in front of the rest claiming that "he was tlaking shet." If mma coaches cant even grow out of this mentality how do you expect the rest of their population or me even to be better than that? heck the Gracie family still wont admit they got owned by Sakuraba and are behind the times.

"A warrior is not about perfection or victory or invulnerability. He's about absolute vulnerability. That is the only true courage"

Hey Enforcer. I got the above quote from a movie. I notice you like movies.

We all took up martial arts because of our fears and insecurities. Everyone has a need to feel safe. Difference is a real warrior comes to accept the fact that there's a lot of things in life we can't control and that everybody's real fight in life is that fight within. He doesn't cave in to fear in its myriad forms (such asthe pressures of not being able to fulfil self-imposed expectations.)

So by learning to fight his own inner demons, a warrior can finally learn to live peacefully with himself and others. Then he can finally enjoy his life instead of wasting so much time and energy feeding his demons.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Just know that a lot of guys went through what you're going through. How things turn out is of course your choice.