Tim's ground proofing.

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   By Kelly Crofts-Johnson on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 04:30 am: Edit Post

Hey so I have been wondering.... I dont know exactly what classes are taught at Shenwu, but I was wondering if there was anything on ground proofing. So like the ground game but geared for the stand up fighter, you know? Anybody in the know?


   By robert on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 04:54 am: Edit Post

So basically you want to learn how to defend against someones ground game without actually having to fight on the ground?

Hmm, interesting approach, good luck with that.

I suggest you just learn groundfighting...

Imo, the most useful tool in avoiding a leg style takedown, is a sprawl. If you cant sprawl, you cant defend against a basic one leg or two leg takedown. If you can at least sprawl, you will be able to avoid most wrestlers.

Jiu jitsu players and judoka, have different ways of throwing, for example a sprawl may not be as effective on a jumping guard. But i can see its practical application for the "butt-scooting" opponent.


   By William on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 04:39 pm: Edit Post

get Tim's ground proofing DVD that will get you started


   By Tim on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 05:58 pm: Edit Post

Kelly,

All the ground proofing techniques are covered in classes along with the rest of the complete ground fighting curriculum.

The "Ground Proofing" DVD covers what you are looking for.


   By Kelly Crofts-Johnson on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 07:42 pm: Edit Post

Yeah tim, that is what I was refering too. I believe I will get the dvd pretty soon to supplement my ground training im doing right now. I'm working with both judo and jitsu guys and having a fun time with it all. I am hoping to plan a trip up there as well for a couple weeks but well see, lol.


   By Tim on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 09:20 pm: Edit Post

Your cross training in Judo and Jiu JItsu is a very good idea. Actually, the more people you can train with from as many different styles/gyms the better.


   By Kelly Crofts-Johnson on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 02:08 am: Edit Post

Well I definatelly hope to crosstrain with more but I am somewhat limited by funds, lol. I am getting involved in a boxing/kickboxing gym as well where I get to work my hsing yi against some good guys as well. It's pretty fun. I enjoy contact.


   By chris hein on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 12:22 pm: Edit Post

Once again Tim breaks the mold. I thought the master was suppose to disown his students if they dare train with another teacher! You really need to talk more about chi, loyalty, magic, and exploding chickens!! You're actually teaching people about martial arts...


   By Tim on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 03:54 pm: Edit Post

Not one of my teachers knew everything, and neither do I, so it only makes sense to encourage students to seek out anyone who has anything that can help them progress.

Have you ever noticed that teachers who are confident in what they do know don't mind if their students train in other places? I have.


   By robert on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 07:45 pm: Edit Post

Speaking of crosstraining, reminds me of the story of Dong hai chuan. The creator of baguazhang. Long story short, he traveled and learned from as many masters as he could.

Is he the real creator of baguazhang? Well, thats a stupid question, i know he is perhaps the creator of baguazhang, but i have read somewhere that it is even older then is is said to be. Or atleast the root concept behind baguazhang was really taught to him by a taoist monk.

It is supposedly only about 300 years old right?

Tai chi chuan being the oldest, and xingyi chuan being second?

Anyway, good stuff kelly crofts johnson. crosstraining in jiu jitsu and judo is a good idea.


   By Bob #2 on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 12:16 pm: Edit Post

"teachers who are confident in what they do know don't mind if their students train in other places?"

Women should be more confident.

Bob#2


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