http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_taijutsu.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_knife_disarm.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_hanbo.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_taijutsu_2.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_knife_disarm_2.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_hanbo_2.mpg

http://www.pittsburghbujinkan.com/living_densho_taijutsu_3.mpg

Some more clips with a slightly different feel.


http://www.genbukan.ie/DakenTaijutsu1.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/DakenTaijutsu2.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/Bitsumetsugeri.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/Bitsumetsugeri.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/UraKoteGyaku.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/KnifeDefense.mpeg

http://www.genbukan.ie/UraTakiori.mpeg

Why do they keep settling in to double weighted stances ?

I guess you are talking about Ichimonji no Kamae, which is probably the most common basic stance in Budo Taijutsu. It is basically a defensive posture and your weight distribution should be about 30%front/70%back.

Richard

notdoubleweighted- are you not making a distinction between "evenly-weighted" and "double-weighted"? (the two aren't really the same)


(if you do a 'search' on this site you'll find a wealth of information about the subject)

yes, I agree there is a difference
if my stances are not double weighted
then that leaves me on one leg
hopping from foot to foot.

NDW-
maybe you lost something in the translation of the Tai Chi classics on what "Double Weighted" means.
In BOB Tai Chi double weighted does not refer to the stances it refers to ³»«l being issued by two players at the same time creating Âù­«.
But thats cool your school is probally does things different

TCB

Hi all

My two pennies worth...
When a rabbit freezes in front of car headlights thats being double weighted, it can be many different terms in posture. Some people explain double weighted as both feet touching the ground at the same time or both hands striking at the same time. Thus, one hand and one foot means single weighted. This explanation is the worst kind of misunderstanding. We should understand that single weighted or double-weighted is not a matter of outer appearance but of the inside. Taijiquan is only the exercise of a central pivot. When you have found where this pivot is located, then your feeling will become spherical and every place will be single weighted, If you do not find the center of gravity, then your feeling will become stagnant and every place will be double-weighted. And it is not only the feet and hands--even one finger will be double weighted.

One should avoid teaching students to telegraph, even for demos sake, this is an illness of double weighting...

Is this what you are referring to Mr not DW

Kind Regards

Jay

Thank Gawd Taijusu or even Taijitsu have nothing to do with Tai Ji Quan
Just like that rediculous translation of the Tai Chi Classics by Jay

just my millon dollars worth of two cents
TC BOB
(TC is for Translating Chinese)

It's not a translation. Not distinguishing between empty and solid results in the fault of maintaining double weightedness.

The concept of double weightedness is so confusing that many people misunderstand it and think it is bad to ever ever have their weight equally disributed on both legs. To think this way is double weighted, as it means the relaionship between yin and yang is still not understood. Double weightedness can apply to many things.

With my first Taiji teacher we used to spend hours and hours with me attacking, and him sayin "your telegpraphing your strike", that can be broken down further, not just the physical movement of the punch, but the intention and so on. The facial expressions are another thingamajig we worked on cause I had'nt realised I was giving a slight grimace before I attacked. Those were concepts we were training but it's an enjoyable concept to go over. I prefer to train without telegraphing of an attack, OK I know in a demo situation we may have to do that to show off the techniques, but for my own preference I prefer to work in a different way. Still there was some nice techniques.

Kind Regards

Jay

Bagua and Yiquan both use a central pivot; no really they do - also if your central pivot is misalinged with your brain then all sorts of horse manure spills forth.

Just a thought..

Talking about being double-weighted, or avoiding such a state, is easy enough; however, it's better to practise whatever system you do against committed and skilful attacks if you ever want to understand this or any concept.

In the end, there's only so much the human body can do in functionnal martial terms no matter how you try to make it sound different or "special" for stylistic reasons.

People -- especially in the internal arts -- like to analyze and discuss; but your brain won't be doing most of the work, if somebody tries to hit you on the nose.

Hey Tai Chi Bob, enough of the teasing already, keep drinking all that Beer and pretty soon you'll be double weighted dude !

BTW I said "Taijiquan is only the exercise of a central pivot" I did'nt say Taiji it is "the" only exercise of a central pivot. Yiquan, Bagua use the same prinicples. Infact it's just a practical useage and any art can use or borrow the same principle.

Michael I agree with you, theres so much theory stuff in the Neijia arts, and people in the internal arts do analyze and discuss more.

When a fast non telegraphed attack happens you don't have time to think, more than often it feels like your "body" remembered what to do... your mind was just a passenger.

Hey how come in that 3rd clip, the rather large dude with the stick, throws the stick away, then fights the guy. I get that he's trying to distract the other fellow, but throwing a perfectly good weapon away seems kinda silly, even if it's just training. All the training looks basically cool to me, I think there is nothing outrageous about it, or that any of it is technically poor. However training like that for years on end is not really going to make you much better at fighting. Spending the time learning those things is good, and will teach you a lot about your body, and how to work with another persons weight and positioning, but if you never do it against free resistance you will forget everything you've learned when the pressure gets turned up and go back to using force against force and making unbalance, un-rhythmic out of control movements. I think training this way has a use, but must quickly be supplemented with actual resistive sparring. Hmmmm, I just said the same old thing....But it's true.

-Chris Hein

OK Jay I concede that what you say makes sense, but instead of talking about all this single/double nonsense - and it is nonsense, grammaticaly, phsiologicaly as well as physicaly -why don't people just accept that proper body alignment together with integrated muscular control is what we are really talking about.

BTW I'm not now, nor have I ever been, TJ Bob, which I'm sure will be reassuring for all concerned.

Look at the stick, look at the stick the stick the stick the stick ! (all together now) the King is in the alltogether, the alltogether, the alltogehter, the King is in the all together the most remarkable scene!

SSSssss look at my stick sssssssssssss.... look at the stick sssssssssssss... look at the stick....

"Hey how come in that 3rd clip, the rather large dude with the stick, throws the stick away, then fights the guy. I get that he's trying to distract the other fellow, but throwing a perfectly good weapon away seems kinda silly"

comedy.

Chris, Ninpo Taijutsu does have Randori, but it is not stressed at the expense of the other training. Competitivemess is avoided since any technique is used, but that doesn't mean that any variation of "partial" drills (read protective equipment or rules) isn't used as creativity is encouraged and different instructors have their own personal take. Training in other martial arts is also encouraged. This is true of Ninpo's philosphy in general, not just my training experience.

Bawahahahahh .... you guys are just tooo funny !
I take it "Sly Snake Kaa from the Jungle Book" that you are saying one can become to pre-occupied with defending himself from the weapon that he may not be looking at the movement of the attacker. Hell the Chinese Army figured this out with the BIG LONG RED HAIR TASSLE fitted at the end of the spear many centuries ago, it twirls and it twirls and where the sharp spear tip ends up nobody knows !

It hard to see what/when/where the opponent is moving or going to move when that tassle is whirling about in figure 8's and so on distracting to say the least.

Aikido's Jo Techniques are geared make use of UKEs "pre occupation with the weapon" more than any other art I've seen. In that aspect NAGE want's UKE to grab or try to grab the Jo.

Kind Regards

Jay

It's really hard to become proficient at something I can't really practice. This means that I will never become as good with my deadly techniques as with my normal ones. Knowing a few deadly techniques is really cool, but if I can solve most of my physical confrontations with a good right and a hip toss, it's all the better. Seems like all martial arts schools should spend at least half of their time on free resistive training, particularly as you continue your training. I think the original Gracie schools didn't let anyone below blue belt (often 2 years of training) grapple for real. I think this does have some advantages, in that your technique will start off very clean. Later though lots of time is spent sparring, giving students the whole picture. Seems to me like most Ninpo schools suffer the same trouble as most Aikido schools, in that: they are all good at technique, but not so good at applying that technique. I believe that this comes directly from a lack of resistive sparring.

I think saying competitive is really a misnomer. I can get together with some friends and we can wrestle and it was never competitive. We just roll and try and do our best. Resistance isn't necessarily "competitive". Competitive implies I'm trying to "win". Often doing my best doesn't mean I'm trying to win, sometimes I see how good I can do with only one arm, or how good I can do from a bad position (things I wouldn’t do if it was “competitive”). This is how I get better, but if I don't do this against real resistance I will never feel the reality of fighting. The way I'm teaching Aikido right now is very non competitive, but often includes resistance.

-Chris Hein