I read your history of bjj and it sounds like the Gracies did not really change any of the techniques but they just focused their training more on particular parts but that the techniques were in traditional Jiu jitsu all along.

Am I wrong about this please explain.

Greg,

Although the foundation of the art was taught by Maeda (after Maeda had already evolved his style due to his extensive fighting experience and exposure to other arts), the Gracies modified many of the traditional techniques, and created quite a few new methods.

How much innovation came from which particular individual I can't say.

BJJ is still evolving.

Oh I see
thanks

What's the meaning of evolving here?

Changing adapting to best fit the environment to ensure survival in the long term.

Mr. Darwin is correct.

For example, Maeda found that in mixed fights with boxers, it was very difficult to enter directly into a clinch without getting hit.

Maeda's solution was to create a new on guard position that protected his face while he distracted his opponent/closed the distance with a kick. This type of on guard position and entry method was not taught in the Kodokan Judo of the time. It was an evolution of strategy and technique based on the Kodokan Judo of the time.

I would like to know your thoughts on KFSS I studied under a grandmaster in a electic system (Kifaru Jitsu)for 12 years and had to move. It was hard to find another school. I just want to make sure I'm not making a mistake.

Ricky,

What's your question?

I wanted to know if you thought Kung Fu San Soo was street effective? I had my question answered tonight. We had a visitor from the Military base close to here, a Captain in the Army. He is a KFSS stylist and had been in Iraq. To make a long story short he had to use this art in Iraq and the guy didn't Survive,and it was a move my Sifu had been working on with me.(Just hard to empty my cup)I got my own question answered. Just thought I would share that with you.

if he used kung fu san soo and didn't survive, how'd did he host a seminar?

Bob #2, Don't you watch the show "Medium" on NBC?

The other guy from Iraq.

and which kfss move was that? draw your 45 with r. hand, pull trigger with finger? indeed, kf rocks

tim,why do IMA don't keep their hand up like a boxer would???

"Changing adapting to best fit the environment to ensure survival in the long term."

Evolving is different from adapting...

Marc,

I'm not sure which IMA don't keep their hands up. The systems I learned all included on guard positions with the hands up.

tim,
like bagua keep one hand in front and one below
the other arm.
but my point is that,they dont keep the hands
by the jaw or the chin tucked in.
i might be wrong,maybe they do in sparring
situations.i've only seen form and push hand stuff
in IMA.

Hmm, my Xing Yi teacher always keeps the chin tucked in. Although, they don't tend to use the shoulder as a guard as much as boxing, while striking.
Or, am I wrong? I am relatively new to XY and may be wrong. But I think there are some things in IMA that are just meant to be for training, not fighting. i.e. a boxer may do squats in the gym. But, he won't likely do them in the ring.
Tim? Marc?

Right, training methods aren't always applied directly to fighting (you don't strike an opponent like you hit a speed bag for example).

Most IMA that actually involve contact sparring (rare nowadays) usually have on guard positions similar to boxing.