Yo Believer, why cling to a non existent honour?

Mr Kwan Saihung does not exist !!!
Read the Deng Mind Dao thesis on "do you exist" in Scholar Warrior !!! Bawahaahahaha !!!!

I think Fatboy doesn't even understand anything about Taoism. How are you going to understand do you exist? Why did Mr Kwan's Master ask him that question?

Go home and fly a kite. maybe you understand it when the kite flys away.

Ian showed us all some self pontification in action, perhaps he should study some more Dao and realise the following...

“We cling to our own point of view, as though everything depended on it. Yet our opinions have no permanence; like autumn and winter, they gradually pass away."

Hi
I´m trying to contact the site - wudanglongmen.com to buy the dvd
but I don´t get any answers from them
Have they shut down the school or is there another way of contacting them ?
Best Regards
Tobias

FatBoy is being silly in this manner. All talk and don't do the walk. It's so easy to talk when he doesn't understand the point of clinging on and going at it actively.

And Tao cannot be studied. It's not in a book anywhere.

Hey Tobias,

Contact
Giovanni Galvez <giovanni@mvipost.com>
for the dvd.
write me an email if that doesn't work.

I do agree w/ ian somewhat, when I first got interested in the "Taoist" MAs (whatever that means) I started trying to understand a little about Taoism and Chinese culture in general...sheez...talk about hard work!

Then I read that "the Tao cannot be sought, or understood, or seen, or felt,....etc...". Man was I relieved! why bother trying to figure it out? Further more, somewhere I read that "trying" to figure it out is moving in the opposite direction of the Tao. Great 'cause now I can go back to doing what I wanted to in the first place...martial arts! lol...

Hey Carlos,

You are right in your thought, you are placing your main emphasis on your martial arts. It will keep you grounded and that's more important than anything. If everything fails, you have your health to keep you in place. God forbid, health is more important than anything.
With good health, you can be doing anything till you are old.

Carlos,
Tao and Chinese culture, they have the same roots. You have to be born chinese to understand the logic and reasoning. Cuz the freaking books are all in Chinese characters. The main problem is Chinese are very conservative and they follow their customs somewhat closely. Therefore, they cannot understand Tao too. Cuz Tao is more free will and there's no fix rules.
Flowing along or with the river, doesn't mean Tao, it's flowing against that's going to take you there. Ask Mr Kwan why if you see him. He tell you, especially pertaining to martial arts.

Ian the reincarnation of Lao Tsu but with his head up his own arse in his Daoist Temple, consuming all his excess chi wrote...

"FatBoy is being silly in this manner. All talk and don't do the walk. It's so easy to talk when he doesn't understand the point of clinging on and going at it actively.

And Tao cannot be studied. It's not in a book anywhere."

What a moron, makes one statement, then totally contradicts it in the second statment saying " Tao cannot be studied", yet inferring he's a real student of Dao !!! bawaahahahaha !!!

Are you sure you would be better off with Yoga not Taoism? Most wannabe Western Taoists you see would be better off enlightned with a fist banged right in their pompous mouths! They might ponder on existence and duality, but right in the there and then, while wondering if their teeth are still intact, they don't feel part of the great quantum fluctuation, for a while... Until they reach safer ground and re-read their Tao Te Ching and as if by magic the self sanctimonious preaching returns to their little smart ass brains!!! How much the more so if I have and elderly asian guy who teaches me the oh so grateful westener the 9 levels of abyss, and he only showed me 3... the education of Lie Tsu you aint buddy !!!!
p.s. don't bother with any smart ass replies, I don't exist !!!

Ian,

"You have to be born chinese to understand the logic and reasoning"

That's like saying you have to be born Chinese to learn how to make Chinese food, or practice Chinese martial arts.

"flowing against" is an oxymoron.

I'm only half Chinese and I can only cook mediocre Chinese food - Could there be a connection? Ian? LOL.

that deep fat so!
maybe you should understand what it means?!!

I'm glad so much many people are going against this stuff.

Fatboy, keep saying he doesn't exist, but he's feels being attacked but he doesn't wish to learn anything.

He can't handle any of my replies so he's just calling me an •••••••. It's ok, he can't be bothered about anything in life except his own.

Hi Tim,

i did not meant that as to be chinese to learn that. It only makes it easier becuz i read Chinese characters and i have the cultural background to understand it. Certain books being translated aren't that accurate.

It's like me, learning your lingo, would take me some time. Like, bounce, crackhead, 5-0, meth. If i'm not in that environment, i would not know the meaining for those words.

And with regards to 'Flowing against', it is right. If you think about it, everything about Tao is natural. But practicing Qi gong is not, meditation is all about conserving energy while going about in a natural way.

(Traditional)If we are flowing with Tao, then we should age with grace and accept that the reality of growing old,die, and finish life.
(What i read and feel)But what all Taoists have been doing is Prolonging life. To live life to the maximum is their goal, and i totally agree with that.
What most Asians do with their life on my part of the world, is work, make lots of money, have kids, and that's it.
They grow old and they have lots of regrets. They don't go backpacking, see the world or anything.
I'm going to plan my life to do one thing at a time, so that i don't look back and say "oh, i forgot that" Or i forgot to pick a different route to get to work this morning.LOL.


So 'flowing against' is definitely not that bad, it makes you change your mindset, changes your life view.
Life is a box of chocolates, you never know what you get..Forest Gump, true saying of a modern life Taoist

Hi Craig,

I can't cook that well either. Just get some McD's supersize fries. Lol

Ian N wrote...
And with regards to 'Flowing against', it is right. If you think about it, everything about Tao is natural. But practicing Qi gong is not, meditation is all about conserving energy while going about in a natural way.


That's where your smart ass outlook on Dao is lacking, it is natural for man to work hard and not live a sedentary lifestyle, our ancestors had to work hard to survive, hunting, building, farming, fighting and so on. Hey what's a little Qi gong to them?

"You display your knowlege of Dao to confront the world, and this man saw right through you!"

Ingrained ideas and a high estimate of their own conduct; leaving the world, and pursuing uncommon ways; talking loftily and in disparagement of others;-- all this is simply symptomatic of the wannabe Daoist. This is what scholars like Ian N suffer from, who betake themselves to the hills and valleys, who are always blaming the world, and who stand aloof like withered trees, or throw themselves into deep pools, are fond of.

Here we go again

I will not respond to any more Fatboy posting, this is stupid.

Considering his pride is working against him, i will forgive him and ignore his ways from now on.

For anyone, who's interested in discussing about this topic. I will gladly accept. Thank you.

Ian N wrote

"Considering his pride is working against him"

Now is that a good or a bad thing? with Ian N's Daoist Theory, from what Ian's written so far... "Pride working against him" would be totally in accord with Nature and Dao... the Ian N would maybe explain this in as much as a male silverback gorilla shows a lot of pride when he beats his chest, his own pride is working against him, and as Gorillas live in the mountains where most Daoists attain to be then pride working against yourself is totally in accord with Dao and Nature... got it? Ian N has it!

Hi Ian N,

I was wondering what type of Daoist Sect do you belong to or have direct lineage to, do you study Dao regularly in a temple with priests, or from a Daoist Feng Shui Master?

Do you study Martial Arts, if so how do you think Daoist Philosophy helps one understand their Martial Art studies.

Do you think Daoism is like knowing about God but not hearing of Jesus, I don't mean to get religious is just a view point.

Do you think the 3 Pure Ones is similar to Catholicism and the Holy Trinity?

Just a few Questions for you Ian N, I hope you reply to all my points as you did say you would discuss on the topic of Dao, with any serious person.

p.s I know of Daoist Masters who are also devout Christians, how can this be? Also some Religious Daoists who are also following teachings of Bhuddism, what do you think of that.

Cheers in advance, Charlie