JKD / Wing Chun vs. Bagua

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   By Elliot (Unregistered Guest) on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 09:54 pm: Edit Post

0% experience?

I've seen every one of Bruce Lee's movies twice!

   By Ozzy Dave on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 11:56 pm: Edit Post

Cheers for the info Charlie, very interesting and I don't feel belittled at all.

Can appreciate what you say in regard to the "Internal Arts" I've practised Taijiquan for a good 20yrs but that doesn't really mean anything as time spent and depth of training are not necessarily synonymous.

However, always thought the actual application of Taijiquan and Hsingyiquan was very similar. There's alot of follow stepping in many of the ways Taijiquan is applied and even trained if your objective is to be able to use the art. Taijiquan also has all the basic applications associated with the five primary fists of Hsingyiquan. I used to think that maybe this was "borrowed" from Hsingyiquan but now am reasonably sure that is not the case so I surmise they share the same root, possibly in old Shanxi styles.

By the way, I asked you a further question regarding Nei Gung on another thread, which you seemed to have missed. I'd appreciate an answer if it's not too much trouble.


   By Fatboy (Unregistered Guest) on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 09:07 am: Edit Post

Lop Sao the Yong Chun mover expressed that he thinks bagua steppeing can be bouncy, please explaing further

and Lop Sao also stated boxing footwork can be flatfooted. boxers "bouncing" around the ring is mostly a sign of inexperience, and it wastes energy.

Agreed bouncing is added energy expenditure, but when fighter can't hit you and you move about the ring they end up doing plenty of work to hit you. Moving around the ring and not being hit is a masterhand at work, this is different to bouncing or being bounced around the ring

   By Rich on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:30 pm: Edit Post


You almost took the words out of my mouth. Odd, that I agree with you now, ehhh!

Lop Sao,
Bagua footwork may look bouncy if you are just looking at the legs from the waist down etc. but it is just like Wing Chun, the body moves level and head does not weave or bobb up and down. I guess it depends on the experience of the artist though, when I first started Chum Kiu... I was a dodoging and bobbing fool.

   By bla bla (Unregistered Guest) on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:56 pm: Edit Post

my style of fighting leans more towards grappling, but i can strike also so i dont really bounce around unless i have to, but that doesnt mean that i dont have a bouncy springlike quality in my legs , if the opponent is coming into me, i would most likely try and interrupt his advance, which means that i wont be retreating backwards making the guy chase me.

oh and here are more signs of inexperience,

arguing, disrespect, and the desire to impress... you know who you are.

bla bla out

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