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Mr. Dunn isn't silly he has gone way beyond that stage. He has reached the pathetic over officious jackass stage though.

I should feel sorry for the idiot, but I don't

Yes, you're right, I don't know everyone's opinion who reads this list, and people who write on this list do have a tendency to write impolitely to others they disagree with.

On the other hand in a thread of this length there are usually a few voices who agree on both sides of a subject. In this thread though....

I doubt many people on this list know me personally, or anything about me. I certainly don't see why anyone would want to follow me as a sheep, or be driven by me. I think quite a few people would feel insulted by the suggestion.

shall we test...

If you are a sheep I order you to write 'baaah'

Richard what I've said is that to the people writing on this list you come across as arrogant, and you base your arguments on stories and lineage.

Everyone on this list who has expressed an opinion in this matter has agreed.

Incidentally I never said you are arrogant, just that in this media you come across as arrogant.

My intention was that you might start taking a bit more responsibility for the effects of your posts.

Admittedly I wrote the last one in a spirit of provocation. I was curious to see how you'd react.

best wishes

Edward

I will ignore the barking, but Edward you really do confirm where the arrogance lies, I quote "Admittedly I wrote the last one in a spirit of provocation. I was curious to see how you'd react". If you really had any level of development you would not have said this or have needed to!!and the only purpose of it is to bolster your admiration of your cleverness and to try and impress others with you astuteness. Well, probably only in my opinion, it does the opposite.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion ... however that entitlement doesn't give anyone the right to feel superior to those who don't automatically fall into line.

Oh, and at the risk of being "sheepish", I feel "baaaad" that so many taiji practitioners seem to need to feel that they and only they are plugged into the secrets.

I see, we have gone from voting to barking. Are you some distant relative of GWB Mr. Dunn? Maybe you should try and fix the vote above in your favor. If you can do this, you will have confirmed some kind of skill along with a lineage.

I'm with "what's the point?" You can lead a brick to water but you can't make it float.
Buddy

Dunn is a sad lost man, and he would deserve our sympathy except that he's taking his students to crap-ville with him. That's inexcusable. I hope some of them wake up.

What is all fighting about?

You spend more time arguing and feedinhg ego' than getting to the essence of Taijiquan. Much of Taijiquan today is fragmented and was within a generation of becoming lost. The Yangjia Michuan System is however reviving thankfuly. As with most chinese styles internal and external there was a publicly shown and a hidden side taught only by word of mouth and sometimes to only one family member.

I am a student of Laoshi Scott Rodell who learnt the Michuan system from Laoshi Wang, Yen Nien. He learnt it from Zhang, Qin Lin whou learnt from Yang, Jianhou and Yang, Quenfu. Lashi Rodell also studied with T,T, Liang and W, C,C, Chen. As well as Cheng Man Ching. Check out www.grtc.org for more info.

The ancient Masters at Arms in Europe stated the answer to your question Tashi in this statement:

All fighting is contrary. Those who fight us must contrast us.

China, particularly south China has been historically wrought with wars and warfare. The imposing rule of the north was always to sort out the dangerous individuals who knew how to fight as this represents possible rebellion. Tai Chi Chuan was developed for many reasons including health. Another reason was to hide, in plain view, the preservation and practice of actual fighting techniques for use in combat. Hence many differences and fragments.